[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 12:34:05 AKST 2015

Nope, we are all supposed to register.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Why does this impact us?  This is only for drone usage... isn't it?
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> I propose the NSRCA buy all of our airplanes and get one registration
>> number, providing copies of the NSRCA "Certifcate of Registration" to all
>> members in good standing.
>>
>> Q. If I let someone borrow my drone do I have to give them the
>> Certificate of Registration?
>>
>> A. Yes, anyone who operates your drone must have the Certificate of
>> Aircraft Registration in their possession. You can give them a paper copy,
>> email it to them, or they can show it electronically from the registration
>> website.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah.  That makes sense.  Classic failure to think though the use-cases.
>>> If they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc. #'s as valid registration they would
>>> solve for the same thing.  If they really wanted to, they could just ask
>>> AMA to provide data regarding their active members and impose a constraint
>>> that AMA #'s can't be changed or reused.
>>>
>>> Peter+
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Actually, if you're not a US citizen, you have to do it by paper and
>>>> snail mail.  Only US Citizens can use the website so if you fly in the US,
>>>> according to the FAA, you still must register and cannot fly unregistered
>>>> here.  I believe Rex pointed out why that'd be a pain.
>>>>
>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The really funny thing here is that you have to be a US citizen to
>>>>> register your UAS, so if we speculate that this is some kind of
>>>>> Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe it to be), then they are
>>>>> missing a huge part of their target.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's over reach and redundant to the AMA membership requirement of
>>>>> having your AMA # or name in the plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply
>>>>> and really don't see the point in getting my blood pressure elevated over
>>>>> this.  I suspect sanity will return over time as AMA and FAA continue to
>>>>> work together here, hopefully in a spirit of partnership rather than an
>>>>> adversarial relationship.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter+
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern
>>>>>> contests!  Or from any other country for that matter!   That would have to
>>>>>> be handled through snail mail...
>>>>>> OR....simply give your foreign buddy a dollar for their
>>>>>> plane....print your registration # on a piece of paper and tape it inside
>>>>>> the plane....give them a copy of your proof of registration....you are good
>>>>>> to go!  They can buy it back when they are ready to go home!   I forget,
>>>>>> what was the whole reason behind registration?   :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between
>>>>>> the individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a
>>>>>> requirement, we should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC
>>>>>> licenses back before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band
>>>>>> was as useless as this is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not.  The CD's
>>>>>> are going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to
>>>>>> have them register at the field.  The registration # does not replace the
>>>>>> AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without
>>>>>> tools.  Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying
>>>>>> on a Sunday afternoon is registered.  Within the NSRCA, I hope to address
>>>>>> this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how
>>>>>> we could/should handle pattern events.  They are AMA events though so
>>>>>> hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <
>>>>>> Karl.Watts at saintalphonsus.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions?  Will we
>>>>>> have to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest
>>>>>> and have our registration # on our plane?  Does this replace the AMA #?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:
>>>>>> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott
>>>>>> McHarg via NSRCA-discussion
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
>>>>>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>>>>>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next
>>>>>> Monday.  The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
>>>>>> register all of your models.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you
>>>>>> when flying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in
>>>>>> your airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools
>>>>>> (aka under your canopy).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't
>>>>>> completely understand this if we aren't registering all of our models
>>>>>> individually but, OK)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the
>>>>>> first 30 days, I believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>>>
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