[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 12:20:00 AKST 2015

Why does this impact us?  This is only for drone usage... isn't it?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> I propose the NSRCA buy all of our airplanes and get one registration
> number, providing copies of the NSRCA "Certifcate of Registration" to all
> members in good standing.
>
> Q. If I let someone borrow my drone do I have to give them the Certificate
> of Registration?
>
> A. Yes, anyone who operates your drone must have the Certificate of
> Aircraft Registration in their possession. You can give them a paper copy,
> email it to them, or they can show it electronically from the registration
> website.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> Ah.  That makes sense.  Classic failure to think though the use-cases.
>> If they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc. #'s as valid registration they would
>> solve for the same thing.  If they really wanted to, they could just ask
>> AMA to provide data regarding their active members and impose a constraint
>> that AMA #'s can't be changed or reused.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Actually, if you're not a US citizen, you have to do it by paper and
>>> snail mail.  Only US Citizens can use the website so if you fly in the US,
>>> according to the FAA, you still must register and cannot fly unregistered
>>> here.  I believe Rex pointed out why that'd be a pain.
>>>
>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>> Texas A&M University
>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The really funny thing here is that you have to be a US citizen to
>>>> register your UAS, so if we speculate that this is some kind of
>>>> Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe it to be), then they are
>>>> missing a huge part of their target.
>>>>
>>>> It's over reach and redundant to the AMA membership requirement of
>>>> having your AMA # or name in the plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply
>>>> and really don't see the point in getting my blood pressure elevated over
>>>> this.  I suspect sanity will return over time as AMA and FAA continue to
>>>> work together here, hopefully in a spirit of partnership rather than an
>>>> adversarial relationship.
>>>>
>>>> Peter+
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could be interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern
>>>>> contests!  Or from any other country for that matter!   That would have to
>>>>> be handled through snail mail...
>>>>> OR....simply give your foreign buddy a dollar for their plane....print
>>>>> your registration # on a piece of paper and tape it inside the
>>>>> plane....give them a copy of your proof of registration....you are good to
>>>>> go!  They can buy it back when they are ready to go home!   I forget, what
>>>>> was the whole reason behind registration?   :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Rex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between
>>>>> the individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a
>>>>> requirement, we should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC
>>>>> licenses back before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band
>>>>> was as useless as this is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not.  The CD's
>>>>> are going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to
>>>>> have them register at the field.  The registration # does not replace the
>>>>> AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without
>>>>> tools.  Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying
>>>>> on a Sunday afternoon is registered.  Within the NSRCA, I hope to address
>>>>> this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how
>>>>> we could/should handle pattern events.  They are AMA events though so
>>>>> hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <
>>>>> Karl.Watts at saintalphonsus.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions?  Will we
>>>>> have to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest
>>>>> and have our registration # on our plane?  Does this replace the AMA #?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:
>>>>> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg
>>>>> via NSRCA-discussion
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
>>>>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>>>>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next
>>>>> Monday.  The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
>>>>> register all of your models.
>>>>>
>>>>> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you
>>>>> when flying.
>>>>>
>>>>> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your
>>>>> airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka
>>>>> under your canopy).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't
>>>>> completely understand this if we aren't registering all of our models
>>>>> individually but, OK)
>>>>>
>>>>> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the
>>>>> first 30 days, I believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>>>
>>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>>>
>>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>>
>>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>>
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