[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 10:52:21 AKST 2015

I propose the NSRCA buy all of our airplanes and get one registration
number, providing copies of the NSRCA "Certifcate of Registration" to all
members in good standing.

Q. If I let someone borrow my drone do I have to give them the Certificate
of Registration?

A. Yes, anyone who operates your drone must have the Certificate of
Aircraft Registration in their possession. You can give them a paper copy,
email it to them, or they can show it electronically from the registration
website.

Mike

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Ah.  That makes sense.  Classic failure to think though the use-cases.  If
> they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc. #'s as valid registration they would solve
> for the same thing.  If they really wanted to, they could just ask AMA to
> provide data regarding their active members and impose a constraint that
> AMA #'s can't be changed or reused.
>
> Peter+
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Actually, if you're not a US citizen, you have to do it by paper and
>> snail mail.  Only US Citizens can use the website so if you fly in the US,
>> according to the FAA, you still must register and cannot fly unregistered
>> here.  I believe Rex pointed out why that'd be a pain.
>>
>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>> Texas A&M University
>> PPL - ASEL
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The really funny thing here is that you have to be a US citizen to
>>> register your UAS, so if we speculate that this is some kind of
>>> Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe it to be), then they are
>>> missing a huge part of their target.
>>>
>>> It's over reach and redundant to the AMA membership requirement of
>>> having your AMA # or name in the plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply
>>> and really don't see the point in getting my blood pressure elevated over
>>> this.  I suspect sanity will return over time as AMA and FAA continue to
>>> work together here, hopefully in a spirit of partnership rather than an
>>> adversarial relationship.
>>>
>>> Peter+
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could be interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern
>>>> contests!  Or from any other country for that matter!   That would have to
>>>> be handled through snail mail...
>>>> OR....simply give your foreign buddy a dollar for their plane....print
>>>> your registration # on a piece of paper and tape it inside the
>>>> plane....give them a copy of your proof of registration....you are good to
>>>> go!  They can buy it back when they are ready to go home!   I forget, what
>>>> was the whole reason behind registration?   :-)
>>>>
>>>> Rex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>
>>>> I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between
>>>> the individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a
>>>> requirement, we should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC
>>>> licenses back before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band
>>>> was as useless as this is.
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Karl,
>>>>
>>>> Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not.  The CD's
>>>> are going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to
>>>> have them register at the field.  The registration # does not replace the
>>>> AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without
>>>> tools.  Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying
>>>> on a Sunday afternoon is registered.  Within the NSRCA, I hope to address
>>>> this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how
>>>> we could/should handle pattern events.  They are AMA events though so
>>>> hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.
>>>>
>>>> Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <
>>>> Karl.Watts at saintalphonsus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions?  Will we have
>>>> to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest and
>>>> have our registration # on our plane?  Does this replace the AMA #?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:
>>>> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg
>>>> via NSRCA-discussion
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
>>>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>>>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next
>>>> Monday.  The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
>>>> register all of your models.
>>>>
>>>> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you
>>>> when flying.
>>>>
>>>> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your
>>>> airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka
>>>> under your canopy).
>>>>
>>>> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't
>>>> completely understand this if we aren't registering all of our models
>>>> individually but, OK)
>>>>
>>>> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the
>>>> first 30 days, I believe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>>
>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>>
>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>>
>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>>
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