[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21

Mon Dec 14 10:43:47 AKST 2015

Ah.  That makes sense.  Classic failure to think though the use-cases.  If
they just took AMA/CAA/BMFA/etc. #'s as valid registration they would solve
for the same thing.  If they really wanted to, they could just ask AMA to
provide data regarding their active members and impose a constraint that
AMA #'s can't be changed or reused.

Peter+

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter,
>
> Actually, if you're not a US citizen, you have to do it by paper and snail
> mail.  Only US Citizens can use the website so if you fly in the US,
> according to the FAA, you still must register and cannot fly unregistered
> here.  I believe Rex pointed out why that'd be a pain.
>
> *Scott A. McHarg*
> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
> Texas A&M University
> PPL - ASEL
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> The really funny thing here is that you have to be a US citizen to
>> register your UAS, so if we speculate that this is some kind of
>> Anti-Terrorist thing (which, I don't believe it to be), then they are
>> missing a huge part of their target.
>>
>> It's over reach and redundant to the AMA membership requirement of having
>> your AMA # or name in the plane, but whatever, I'm happy to comply and
>> really don't see the point in getting my blood pressure elevated over
>> this.  I suspect sanity will return over time as AMA and FAA continue to
>> work together here, hopefully in a spirit of partnership rather than an
>> adversarial relationship.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Rex via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Could be interesting when having Canadians come to our pattern
>>> contests!  Or from any other country for that matter!   That would have to
>>> be handled through snail mail...
>>> OR....simply give your foreign buddy a dollar for their plane....print
>>> your registration # on a piece of paper and tape it inside the
>>> plane....give them a copy of your proof of registration....you are good to
>>> go!  They can buy it back when they are ready to go home!   I forget, what
>>> was the whole reason behind registration?   :-)
>>>
>>> Rex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Date: 12/14/2015 11:06 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>
>>> I see no reason why CDs or clubs need to be involved. This is between
>>> the individual and the FAA. Unless AMA makes checking this be a
>>> requirement, we should not do anything. I don't recall AMA checking FCC
>>> licenses back before the FCC realized that trying to control Citizens Band
>>> was as useless as this is.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Karl,
>>>
>>> Good questions which need to be addressed, pattern or not.  The CD's are
>>> going to have to make sure each entrant is registered or offer a way to
>>> have them register at the field.  The registration # does not replace the
>>> AMA # but must be contained in or on the model and accessible without
>>> tools.  Heck, AMA clubs are going to have to make sure each person flying
>>> on a Sunday afternoon is registered.  Within the NSRCA, I hope to address
>>> this at our next board meeting to try to get y'all some answers as to how
>>> we could/should handle pattern events.  They are AMA events though so
>>> hopefully we can get some answers for y'all through the S.I.G.
>>>
>>> Vicente, I think the 400 ft AGL rule has always been in place per se.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>> Texas A&M University
>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Karl Watts <
>>> Karl.Watts at saintalphonsus.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, so how will this now impact our pattern competitions?  Will we have
>>> to now provide proof of registration before we can fly at a contest and
>>> have our registration # on our plane?  Does this replace the AMA #?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:
>>> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott McHarg
>>> via NSRCA-discussion
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2015 11:05 AM
>>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>>> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Registration begins December 21
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, here it is boys and girls.  It's official and starts next Monday.
>>> The link is for the FAQ's of what's happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  You only have to register once and you don't have to individually
>>> register all of your models.
>>>
>>> You must be able to provide proof of registration and have it on you
>>> when flying.
>>>
>>> You must have your Registration # (not going to be a N number) in your
>>> airplane where it is legible and accessible without the use of tools (aka
>>> under your canopy).
>>>
>>> If you sell a model, you should update your records. (I don't completely
>>> understand this if we aren't registering all of our models individually
>>> but, OK)
>>>
>>> Registration is $5 but you'll get that back if you register in the first
>>> 30 days, I believe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a look at the link and prepare to be upset.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>
>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>
>>> Texas A&M University
>>>
>>> PPL - ASEL
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