[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences

[John Gayer]

Upon relooking at the diagram rather than the description, there appears 
to be a 2of 4 going up and a 2of 4 coming back down. So no knife edge 
corner.
Note there is no downgrade for different radii. :)
John

On 8/18/2014 11:20 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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> From the rulebook. 94-95. Actually describes both 1/2 roll and 1/4 roll
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> From an AAM article in 1969. I never saw anyone fly this maneuver in 
> 1969 or for many years afterwards and it was optional. Picture seems 
> to be pretty clear that it was intended to be a rolling loop, not a 
> loop with a quick 1/2 roll every 90 degrees or some such. Same article 
> also refers to an FAI rolling circle, for which I can find no definition.
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> On 8/18/2014 10:50 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:
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>> I am quite certain the #14 Cobra is a misprint...it should read ½ 
>> rolls....which is what the diagram shows.
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>> My participation does not go back to the days before retracts....but 
>> I'd be very surprised if the two roll loop was 2 integrated rolls.
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>> Regards,
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>> Dave
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>> *From:*NSRCA-discussion 
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *John 
>> Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:35 AM
>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences
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>> Advanced and Masters are not our entry classes and should not affect 
>> future participation. Those new to pattern should begin in either 
>> Sportsman or Intermediate depending on skill level. When a flyer 
>> feels he is ready to move up, he will try flying the next class in 
>> practice. If it is too difficult to even see a way to fly that 
>> sequence reasonably, then that pilot was not ready to move up and 
>> should stay in his current class another year (or more). We do not 
>> lose people because they stayed in their current class, we lose them 
>> because they moved up when not ready and find they are outclassed 
>> without the vision, coordination, time to practice (or name your 
>> reason) to be competitive. Not competitive for winning, just 
>> competitive.
>> Both Masters and Advanced can, and probably will be, changed next 
>> year. Any substantial problems can be addressed then. Many have 
>> tested these sequences. All have have flown them successfully, if not 
>> always happily. We can go on and on about ugly maneuvers, difficulty 
>> levels and dislike of change but that happens every cycle.
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>> Just for comparison here are Advanced and Masters from 20 years ago. 
>> Overall both appear somewhat easier than the current sequences we are 
>> flying but not a lot. Total KFactors are a bit lower. Also we are 
>> flying many of the same maneuvers. I hope you noticed the knife edge 
>> top of the cobra in masters. If you go back even further you can find 
>> a two roll loop in the days before retracts...
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>> John Gayer
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