[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
John Gayer
jgghome at comcast.net
Mon Aug 4 13:20:11 AKDT 2014
Thanks for finding the error. Here is the latest change ( I hesitate to
say final) and also using a proposed revision system. I'm using the date
and a "-1" in case we have more than one change in a given day.
John
On 8/4/2014 1:24 PM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
> I do not understand the description of #17 the reverse half cuban:
>
> "17. 1/2 Rev Cuban from top,1/2 roll on 45 (T): Model executes a
> one-eighth (1/8) outside loop to
> a 45 degree downline. On this line the model hesitates, performs a
> half roll, hesitates, and then
> performs a five eights (5/8) inside loop to level upright in the
> opposite direction of flight."
>
> Shouldn't the "five eights (5/8) inside loop" be an 5/8 outside loop
> instead of the stated inside loop? The next maneuver is the upright spin.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
> Attached here, just in case
>
> *From:*NSRCA-discussion
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> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of
> *RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 12:04 PM
> *To:* Jas; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
>
> ALCON,
>
> I went to the site and found the same sequence as last week... I
> think. Are these .pdf files dated anywhere?
>
> Richard Bohn
>
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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>
>
>
> Dale,
>
> I'm out at the field with one of our Advanced pilots and he likes
> the changes. I'm going to fly through it once for him and then
> call it for him. Updates later.
>
> Sent from my iP
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
> Over that past few weeks, we have received a lot of input from
> the membership about the Advanced sequence proposed for 2015.
> To everyone who has, a big thanks, we really need this in
> order to develop sequences that meet the expectations of the
> majority of the membership. I would add, it is very helpful
> when these inputs are specific, not just "I don't like it".
> Much of the criticism about this sequence was in two areas,
> difficulty and new maneuvers, let me address each.
>
> The guide allows for new maneuvers to be created. The list of
> maneuvers in the development guide is not meant to be
> exhaustive. Each time we develop new schedules, new ones are
> created or borrowed from other disciplines, like F3A or even
> do I dare say, IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence, there are
> a few maneuvers that were previously not in the catalog, like
> the Immelman with full rolls, the Hour Glass or the Cobra as
> we defined. As along at these are in line with class
> guidelines and it's felt they are appropriate, they are added
> to the list of allowable maneuvers. Specifically, the Hour
> Glass was added because we all felt it was appropriate, and a
> variant of that maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P. So as
> you will see, we left it in.
>
> As to difficulty, we had enough pilots indicate concern, that
> we took another look. In doing so, we realized that we had
> exceeded some of the boundaries set forth in the Advanced
> section. The guide has been a living breathing document for
> the past few cycles, so we could have modified the guide to
> allow for this sequence, but it was felt this was the wrong
> approach. Now, for the next cycle, we will be recommending
> some changes to the guide (for BOD approval) which would allow
> more flexibility, however for now, we are modifying the
> sequence to adhere to the guidelines. Specifically, there are
> only limited number of inverted entries and exits, on turn
> around maneuvers, executed at a low altitude. You will see in
> the new sequence, we simply added and removed rolls, which
> brought the number of inverted sections in line. The basic
> structure and class of each maneuvers, are really unchanged.
>
> The new sequence is now posted on the NSRCA web site. Again a
> big thanks for all who took the time to let us know.
>
> Dale
>
> Sequence Committee
>
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