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Thanks for finding the error. Here is the latest change ( I hesitate
to say final) and also using a proposed revision system. I'm using
the date and a "-1" in case we have more than one change in a given
day.<br>
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John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/4/2014 1:24 PM, astropuppy via
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<div dir="ltr">I do not understand the description of #17 the
reverse half cuban:
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<div>"17. 1/2 Rev Cuban from top,1/2 roll on 45 (T): Model
executes a one-eighth (1/8) outside loop to </div>
<div>a 45 degree downline. On this line the model hesitates,
performs a half roll, hesitates, and then </div>
<div>performs a five eights (5/8) inside loop to level upright
in the opposite direction of flight."</div>
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<div>Shouldn't the "five eights (5/8) inside loop" be an 5/8
outside loop instead of the stated inside loop? The next
maneuver is the upright spin.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dale
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Attached
here, just in case</span></p>
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NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>RJ Bohn via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 04, 2014 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jas; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015
Proposed Advanced Sequence</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ALCON,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I went to the site and found
the same sequence as last week… I think. Are
these .pdf files dated anywhere? </p>
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PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I'm
out at the field with one of our
Advanced pilots and he likes the
changes. I'm going to fly through it
once for him and then call it for him.
Updates later.<br>
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Sent from my iP</span></p>
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On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale
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style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Over
that past few weeks, we have received
a lot of input from the membership
about the Advanced sequence proposed
for 2015. To everyone who has, a big
thanks, we really need this in order
to develop sequences that meet the
expectations of the majority of the
membership. I would add, it is very
helpful when these inputs are
specific, not just "I don't like it".
Much of the criticism about this
sequence was in two areas, difficulty
and new maneuvers, let me address
each. </span></p>
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style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
guide allows for new maneuvers to be
created. The list of maneuvers in the
development guide is not meant to be
exhaustive. Each time we develop new
schedules, new ones are created or
borrowed from other disciplines, like
F3A or even do I dare say,
IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence,
there are a few maneuvers that were
previously not in the catalog, like
the Immelman with full rolls, the Hour
Glass or the Cobra as we defined. As
along at these are in line with class
guidelines and it's felt they are
appropriate, they are added to the
list of allowable maneuvers.
Specifically, the Hour Glass was added
because we all felt it was
appropriate, and a variant of that
maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P.
So as you will see, we left it in.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">As
to difficulty, we had enough pilots
indicate concern, that we took another
look. In doing so, we realized that we
had exceeded some of the boundaries
set forth in the Advanced section. The
guide has been a living breathing
document for the past few cycles, so
we could have modified the guide to
allow for this sequence, but it was
felt this was the wrong approach. Now,
for the next cycle, we will be
recommending some changes to the guide
(for BOD approval) which would allow
more flexibility, however for now, we
are modifying the sequence to adhere
to the guidelines. Specifically, there
are only limited number of inverted
entries and exits, on turn around
maneuvers, executed at a low altitude.
You will see in the new sequence, we
simply added and removed rolls, which
brought the number of inverted
sections in line. The basic structure
and class of each maneuvers, are
really unchanged.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
new sequence is now posted on the
NSRCA web site. Again a big thanks for
all who took the time to let us know.</span></p>
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Committee</span></p>
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