[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence

[Phil S.]

That makes more sense to me, anyway, Mike...

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On 8/4/2014 3:24 PM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
> I do not understand the description of #17 the reverse half cuban:
>
> "17. 1/2 Rev Cuban from top,1/2 roll on 45 (T): Model executes a 
> one-eighth (1/8) outside loop to
> a 45 degree downline. On this line the model hesitates, performs a 
> half roll, hesitates, and then
> performs a five eights (5/8) inside loop to level upright in the 
> opposite direction of flight."
>
> Shouldn't the "five eights (5/8) inside loop" be an 5/8 outside loop 
> instead of the stated inside loop? The next maneuver is the upright spin.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion 
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
>     Attached here, just in case
>
>     *From:* NSRCA-discussion
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>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of
>     *RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion
>     *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 12:04 PM
>     *To:* Jas; General pattern discussion
>     *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
>
>     ALCON,
>
>      I went to the site and found the same sequence as last week... I
>     think.   Are these .pdf files dated anywhere?
>
>     Richard Bohn
>
>     On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion
>     <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Dale,
>
>     I'm out at the field with one of our Advanced pilots and he likes
>     the changes. I'm going to fly through it once for him and then
>     call it for him. Updates later.
>
>     Sent from my iP
>
>
>     On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion
>     <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
>         Over that past few weeks, we have received a lot of input from
>         the membership about the Advanced sequence proposed for 2015.
>         To everyone who has, a big thanks, we really need this in
>         order to develop sequences that meet the expectations of the
>         majority of the membership. I would add, it is very helpful
>         when these inputs are specific, not just "I don't like it".
>         Much of the criticism about this sequence was in two areas,
>         difficulty and new maneuvers, let me address each.
>
>         The guide allows for new maneuvers to be created. The list of
>         maneuvers in the development guide is not meant to be
>         exhaustive. Each time we develop new schedules, new ones are
>         created or borrowed from other disciplines, like F3A or even
>         do I dare say, IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence, there are
>         a few maneuvers that were previously not in the catalog, like
>         the Immelman with full rolls, the Hour Glass or the Cobra as
>         we defined. As along at these are in line with class
>         guidelines and it's felt they are appropriate, they are added
>         to the list of allowable maneuvers. Specifically, the Hour
>         Glass was added because we all felt it was appropriate, and a
>         variant of that maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P. So as
>         you will see, we left it in.
>
>         As to difficulty, we had enough pilots indicate concern, that
>         we took another look. In doing so, we realized that we had
>         exceeded some of the boundaries set forth in the Advanced
>         section. The guide has been a living breathing document for
>         the past few cycles, so we could have modified the guide to
>         allow for this sequence, but it was felt this was the wrong
>         approach. Now, for the next cycle, we will be recommending
>         some changes to the guide (for BOD approval) which would allow
>         more flexibility, however for now, we are modifying the
>         sequence to adhere to the guidelines. Specifically, there are
>         only limited number of inverted entries and exits, on turn
>         around maneuvers, executed at a low altitude. You will see in
>         the new sequence, we simply added and removed rolls, which
>         brought the number of inverted sections in line. The basic
>         structure and class of each maneuvers, are really unchanged.
>
>         The new sequence is now posted on the NSRCA web site. Again a
>         big thanks for all who took the time to let us know.
>
>         Dale
>
>         Sequence Committee
>
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