[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
Phil S.
chuenkan at comcast.net
Mon Aug 4 13:11:27 AKDT 2014
Yeah, there's a certain "Pucker Factor" there -- but it doesn't get any
bonus points in judging. ;-{(
Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary
AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
SPA L-18, Board Member
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On 8/4/2014 4:12 PM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
> I proof read a lot better then I fly. The whole idea of pointing the
> airplane at the ground and turn it upside down gets my attention
> everytime.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
> THAT'S the phrase I was looking for! Document control!
>
> Rich
>
> On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Anthony Romano via NSRCA-discussion
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>
>> After flying the previous version this weekend the revision looks
>> very good. Adding the half roll to the shark's tooth makes a much
>> better balance to the amount of inverted flight and complexity of
>> the sequence. The triangle is an interesting way to add some
>> inverted at a safer altitude. The reverse cuban from the top
>> could be taxing but looking forward to hearing the feedback from
>> the advanced pilots in my club.
>>
>> Anthony Romano
>>
>> Revision numbers or a date would be a good idea! Document control
>> always helps.
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:22:56 -0400
>> To: revolutionman at gci.net <mailto:revolutionman at gci.net>;
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
>> From: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I would suggest, just for giggles, on /any/ of the sequences, a
>> version # or date be added with the link. Or a little GIF saying
>> "NEW"?
>>
>> Jason and Mike are out flying the newest revision. I like it!
>>
>> Rich Bohn
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:03 PM, RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>>
>> ALCON,
>>
>> I went to the site and found the same sequence as last
>> week... I think. Are these .pdf files dated anywhere?
>>
>> Richard Bohn
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Dale,
>>
>> I'm out at the field with one of our Advanced pilots and
>> he likes the changes. I'm going to fly through it once
>> for him and then call it for him. Updates later.
>>
>> Sent from my iP
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale Olstinske via
>> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Over that past few weeks, we have received a lot of
>> input from the membership about the Advanced sequence
>> proposed for 2015. To everyone who has, a big thanks,
>> we really need this in order to develop sequences
>> that meet the expectations of the majority of the
>> membership. I would add, it is very helpful when
>> these inputs are specific, not just "I don't like
>> it". Much of the criticism about this sequence was in
>> two areas, difficulty and new maneuvers, let me
>> address each.
>> The guide allows for new maneuvers to be created. The
>> list of maneuvers in the development guide is not
>> meant to be exhaustive. Each time we develop new
>> schedules, new ones are created or borrowed from
>> other disciplines, like F3A or even do I dare say,
>> IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence, there are a few
>> maneuvers that were previously not in the catalog,
>> like the Immelman with full rolls, the Hour Glass or
>> the Cobra as we defined. As along at these are in
>> line with class guidelines and it's felt they are
>> appropriate, they are added to the list of allowable
>> maneuvers. Specifically, the Hour Glass was added
>> because we all felt it was appropriate, and a variant
>> of that maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P. So as
>> you will see, we left it in.
>> As to difficulty, we had enough pilots indicate
>> concern, that we took another look. In doing so, we
>> realized that we had exceeded some of the boundaries
>> set forth in the Advanced section. The guide has been
>> a living breathing document for the past few cycles,
>> so we could have modified the guide to allow for this
>> sequence, but it was felt this was the wrong
>> approach. Now, for the next cycle, we will be
>> recommending some changes to the guide (for BOD
>> approval) which would allow more flexibility, however
>> for now, we are modifying the sequence to adhere to
>> the guidelines. Specifically, there are only limited
>> number of inverted entries and exits, on turn around
>> maneuvers, executed at a low altitude. You will see
>> in the new sequence, we simply added and removed
>> rolls, which brought the number of inverted sections
>> in line. The basic structure and class of each
>> maneuvers, are really unchanged.
>> The new sequence is now posted on the NSRCA web site.
>> Again a big thanks for all who took the time to let
>> us know.
>> Dale
>> Sequence Committee
>>
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