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<font face="Arial">Yeah, there's a certain "Pucker Factor" there -- but
it doesn't get any bonus points in judging. ;-{(</font><br>
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AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
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On 8/4/2014 4:12 PM, astropuppy via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I proof read a lot better then I fly. The whole idea
of pointing the airplane at the ground and turn it upside down gets my
attention everytime.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, RJ Bohn via
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">THAT’S the phrase I was looking
for! Document control!
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<div>Rich</div>
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<div>On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Anthony Romano via
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<div>After flying the previous version this weekend the revision
looks very good. Adding the half roll to the shark's tooth makes a much
better balance to the amount of inverted flight and complexity of the
sequence. The triangle is an interesting way to add some inverted at a
safer altitude. The reverse cuban from the top could be taxing but
looking forward to hearing the feedback from the advanced pilots in my
club.</div>
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<div>Anthony Romano</div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Revision numbers or a date
would be a good idea! Document control always helps.</span></div>
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<hr>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:22:56 -0400<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:revolutionman@gci.net"
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence<br>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
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I would suggest, just for giggles, on<span> </span><i>any</i><span> </span>of
the sequences, a version # or date be added with the link. Or a little
GIF saying “NEW”?
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<div>Jason and Mike are out flying the newest revision. I like
it!</div>
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<div>Rich Bohn<br>
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<div>On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:03 PM, RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">ALCON,
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<div> I went to the site and found the same sequence as last
week… I think. Are these .pdf files dated anywhere? </div>
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<div>Richard Bohn</div>
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<div>On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<div>Dale,</div>
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<div>I'm out at the field with one of our Advanced pilots and
he likes the changes. I'm going to fly through it once for him and then
call it for him. Updates later.<br>
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Sent from my iP</div>
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On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion <<a
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<div>Over that past few weeks, we have received a lot of
input from the membership about the Advanced sequence proposed for
2015. To everyone who has, a big thanks, we really need this in order
to develop sequences that meet the expectations of the majority of the
membership. I would add, it is very helpful when these inputs are
specific, not just "I don't like it". Much of the criticism about this
sequence was in two areas, difficulty and new maneuvers, let me address
each. </div>
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<div>The guide allows for new maneuvers to be created. The
list of maneuvers in the development guide is not meant to be
exhaustive. Each time we develop new schedules, new ones are created or
borrowed from other disciplines, like F3A or even do I dare say,
IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence, there are a few maneuvers that
were previously not in the catalog, like the Immelman with full rolls,
the Hour Glass or the Cobra as we defined. As along at these are in
line with class guidelines and it's felt they are appropriate, they are
added to the list of allowable maneuvers. Specifically, the Hour Glass
was added because we all felt it was appropriate, and a variant of that
maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P. So as you will see, we left it in.</div>
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<div>As to difficulty, we had enough pilots indicate
concern, that we took another look. In doing so, we realized that we
had exceeded some of the boundaries set forth in the Advanced section.
The guide has been a living breathing document for the past few cycles,
so we could have modified the guide to allow for this sequence, but it
was felt this was the wrong approach. Now, for the next cycle, we will
be recommending some changes to the guide (for BOD approval) which
would allow more flexibility, however for now, we are modifying the
sequence to adhere to the guidelines. Specifically, there are only
limited number of inverted entries and exits, on turn around maneuvers,
executed at a low altitude. You will see in the new sequence, we simply
added and removed rolls, which brought the number of inverted sections
in line. The basic structure and class of each maneuvers, are really
unchanged.</div>
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<div>The new sequence is now posted on the NSRCA web site.
Again a big thanks for all who took the time to let us know.</div>
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<div>Dale</div>
<div>Sequence Committee</div>
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