[NSRCA-discussion] Master's sequence question

Tue Oct 1 17:09:39 AKDT 2013

Turn around maneuver can be different altitude. A center maneuver should
have the same enter exit attitudes.
On Oct 1, 2013 7:22 PM, "Bob Moulder" <cmoulder at optonline.net> wrote:

> On maneuver #11 (humpty 3/4 up 1/4 down inverted exit) do the entry and
> exit altitudes have to be the same?
>
> I read the maneuver description and this is not mentioned as it is in the
> other humpty descriptions which indicate they need not be the same. I
> assume that they need not be the same since this maneuver provides an
> opportunity for in/out track adjustment and probably also for altitude...
> but there I go assuming things.
>
> -- Bob
>
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>>    1. Re: P15 (Derek Koopowitz)
>>    2. Re: P15 (Derek Koopowitz)
>>    3. Re: nsrca shutdown??? (Phil S.)
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>> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:54:39 -0400
>> From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General pattern
>> discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P15
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>> I'm with Dave on this one...
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>>  On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "DaveL322 at comcast.net"  wrote:
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>>> Hmmm....
>>>
>>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>>
>>> Regards,
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>>> Dave
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>>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject:
>>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
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>>>
>>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last
>>> week?
>>>
>>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping the
>>> 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost
>>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that the
>>> F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter  wrote:
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>>>  Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is a
>>>> geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make the second
>>>> leg too long because of the roll.
>>>>
>>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
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>> From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General pattern
>> discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P15
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>> +1
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>>  On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jas  wrote:
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>>> Same here. And F15 is even longer
>>>
>>> iJason
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>>>  On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "DaveL322 at comcast.net"  wrote:
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>>>> Hmmm....
>>>>
>>>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>>>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
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>>>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject:
>>>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>>>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last
>>>> week?
>>>>
>>>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping
>>>> the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost
>>>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that the
>>>> F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is a
>>>>> geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make the second
>>>>> leg too long because of the roll.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
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>> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:22:16 -0400
>> From: "Phil S." To: General pattern discussion Subject: Re:
>> [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
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>> Well, Dave, the essential salaries of our "congressmen" would NOT get
>> shut down!  They don't earn the $191.000/yr they get when congress is in
>> session and "functioning", so why deny them when the government is shut
>> down?
>>
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>> On 9/30/2013 11:53 AM, Dave Burton wrote:
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>>>
>>> I'm having trouble seeing the downside of a Govt. shutdown. Perhaps they
>>> would run all essential stuff and shut down the non essential stuff!
>>>
>>> Naaah, that wouldn't happen, probably the other way around.
>>>
>>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces@**lists.nsrca.org<nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>[mailto:
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>>> *On Behalf Of *Ronald Van Putte
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 10:08 AM
>>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
>>>
>>> No, the downwind turn is easier to understand and makes more sense.
>>>
>>> BTW, all those in favor of having the salaries of all members of
>>> Congress and their staffs suspended until they get the job done, say, "Aye".
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Randy Forbus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this the same as the government shut down?
>>>
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>>> From: vanputter at gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:53:23 -0500
>>> To: mups1953 at yahoo.com ; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.**org<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
>>>
>>> Or the downwind turn.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:56 AM, mike mueller wrote:
>>>
>>>     What we need is a discussion on snap rolls. That'll wake everyone
>>>     up. Mike
>>>
>>>     Mike Mueller
>>>
>>>     Customer Services
>>>
>>>      F3AUnlimited
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>>>     *From:* Gordon Seeling >
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>>>         *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 6:59 AM
>>>     *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
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>>>
>>>     toooo quiet!!!
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