[NSRCA-discussion] Master's sequence question

Tue Oct 1 19:02:15 AKDT 2013

Hi Bob,
Entry and exit altitudes can be different. Rolls on each line must be centered on that line segment.

Verne Koester

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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Master's sequence question

On maneuver #11 (humpty 3/4 up 1/4 down inverted exit) do the entry and exit altitudes have to be the same?

I read the maneuver description and this is not mentioned as it is in the other humpty descriptions which indicate they need not be the same. 
I assume that they need not be the same since this maneuver provides an opportunity for in/out track adjustment and probably also for altitude... but there I go assuming things.

-- Bob

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> From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General 
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> I'm with Dave on this one...
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "DaveL322 at comcast.net"  wrote:
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>> Hmmm....
>>
>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>
>> Regards,
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>> Dave
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>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject: 
>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
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>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last 
>> week?
>>
>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping 
>> the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>
>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost 
>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that 
>> the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>
>> John
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter  wrote:
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>>> Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>
>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is 
>>> a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make 
>>> the second leg too long because of the roll.
>>>
>>> Let the yapping begin.
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>>> Chuck
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jas  wrote:
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>> Same here. And F15 is even longer
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>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "DaveL322 at comcast.net"  wrote:
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>>> Hmmm....
>>>
>>> I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds
>>> longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.
>>>
>>> Regards,
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>>> Dave
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>>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint
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>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject: 
>>> [NSRCA-discussion] P15
>>> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41
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>>>
>>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott 
>>> last week?
>>>
>>> Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping 
>>> the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost 
>>> "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that 
>>> the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spent the weekend judging p-15.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is 
>>>> a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make 
>>>> the second leg too long because of the roll.
>>>>
>>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
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> Well, Dave, the essential salaries of our "congressmen" would NOT get 
> shut down!  They don't earn the $191.000/yr they get when congress is 
> in session and "functioning", so why deny them when the government is 
> shut down?
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> On 9/30/2013 11:53 AM, Dave Burton wrote:
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>> I'm having trouble seeing the downside of a Govt. shutdown. Perhaps 
>> they would run all essential stuff and shut down the non essential 
>> stuff!
>>
>> Naaah, that wouldn't happen, probably the other way around.
>>
>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Ronald Van Putte
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 10:08 AM
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>> No, the downwind turn is easier to understand and makes more sense.
>>
>> BTW, all those in favor of having the salaries of all members of 
>> Congress and their staffs suspended until they get the job done, say, 
>> "Aye".
>>
>> Ron
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>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Randy Forbus wrote:
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>> Is this the same as the government shut down?
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>> From: vanputter at gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:53:23 -0500
>> To: mups1953 at yahoo.com ; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org Subject: 
>> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???
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>> Or the downwind turn.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:56 AM, mike mueller wrote:
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>>     What we need is a discussion on snap rolls. That'll wake everyone
>>     up. Mike
>>
>>     Mike Mueller
>>
>>     Customer Services
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>>     toooo quiet!!!
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