<p dir="ltr">Turn around maneuver can be different altitude. A center maneuver should have the same enter exit attitudes.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 1, 2013 7:22 PM, "Bob Moulder" <<a href="mailto:cmoulder@optonline.net">cmoulder@optonline.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On maneuver #11 (humpty 3/4 up 1/4 down inverted exit) do the entry and exit altitudes have to be the same?<br>
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I read the maneuver description and this is not mentioned as it is in the other humpty descriptions which indicate they need not be the same. I assume that they need not be the same since this maneuver provides an opportunity for in/out track adjustment and probably also for altitude... but there I go assuming things.<br>
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From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General pattern discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P15<br>
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I'm with Dave on this one...<br>
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "<a href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net" target="_blank">DaveL322@comcast.net</a>" wrote:<br>
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Hmmm....<br>
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I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.<br>
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From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] P15<br>
Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41<br>
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I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last week?<br>
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Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.<br>
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On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.<br>
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:<br>
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Spent the weekend judging p-15.<br>
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Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make the second leg too long because of the roll.<br>
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Let the yapping begin.<br>
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From: Derek Koopowitz To: General pattern discussion Cc: General pattern discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P15<br>
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Same here. And F15 is even longer<br>
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:11 AM, "<a href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net" target="_blank">DaveL322@comcast.net</a>" wrote:<br>
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Hmmm....<br>
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I am using more mah for P15 than P13 (and taking about 20 seconds longer) and P13 was taking more mah than Masters.<br>
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From: "John Ford" To: "General pattern discussion" Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] P15<br>
Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 10:41<br>
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I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last week?<br>
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Same observations?but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.<br>
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On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison.<br>
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Spent the weekend judging p-15.<br>
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Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make the second leg too long because of the roll.<br>
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Let the yapping begin.<br>
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From: "Phil S." To: General pattern discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] nsrca shutdown???<br>
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Well, Dave, the essential salaries of our "congressmen" would NOT get shut down! They don't earn the $191.000/yr they get when congress is in session and "functioning", so why deny them when the government is shut down?<br>
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I'm having trouble seeing the downside of a Govt. shutdown. Perhaps they would run all essential stuff and shut down the non essential stuff!<br>
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Naaah, that wouldn't happen, probably the other way around.<br>
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*From:* <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@<u></u>lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-<u></u>bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Van Putte<br>
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No, the downwind turn is easier to understand and makes more sense.<br>
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BTW, all those in favor of having the salaries of all members of Congress and their staffs suspended until they get the job done, say, "Aye".<br>
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Randy Forbus wrote:<br>
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Is this the same as the government shut down?<br>
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Or the downwind turn.<br>
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:56 AM, mike mueller wrote:<br>
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What we need is a discussion on snap rolls. That'll wake everyone<br>
up. Mike<br>
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