[NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts

John Pavlick jpavlick26 at att.net
Mon Feb 25 17:54:28 AKST 2013


This is part of the reason why I'm having more fun now with race cars than I
did flying Pattern: a lap counter doesn't have questions like this! LOL

 

John Pavlick

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Patrick
Harris
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts

 

Here's the info from the AMA manual:

 

"The first radius of a maneuver does not define the radii for the remaining
radii of a maneuver but it is a starting point. As the maneuver progresses,
the judge will compare each radius that was just flown to the last radius
flown and if there is a difference, then a downgrade will be given based on
the severity of the difference."

 

FAI is "first, AMA is "next"

 

So , yes, it would not matter in a half reverse as it only has two radii,
but a full Cuban it would.. 

 

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Stuart Chale <schale1 at verizon.net> wrote:

Isn't it the reverse?  In AMA the first radius sets the radii for the rest
of the maneuver.
And yes Jim the pull up radius has to be the same as the loop portion.

Stuart C.

 

On 2/25/2013 8:55 PM, Patrick Harris wrote:

In FAI, the "first" radius of the maneuver establishes all radius's of the
maneuver. In AMA classes, the last radius flown in the maneuver establishes
the radius of the next (radius) in the maneuver. . 

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, James Oddino <joddino at socal.rr.com> wrote:

How about the radii in a half reverse cuban eight turnaround?  Does the
radius of the loop have to be the same as the radius of the pull to 45
degrees? 

 

Jim O

 

 

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:13 PM, tocdon at netscape.net wrote:





A question on radius judging.  Tight radius (or loose radius) manevuer
segments are subject to downgrade in FAI.  What constitutes a tight radius?
Physically tight (in feet, for example), or tight (fast speed through the
radius giving the impression that the plane is pulling excessive g's,
however that is interpreted).   A slow flying radius could be extremely
tight, for example the last radius at the bottom of the triangle loop (135
degree pull) or figure Z.

Best regards,

Don

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