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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is part of the reason why I’m having more fun now with
race cars than I did flying Pattern: a lap counter doesn’t have questions
like this! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Harris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2013 9:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question for the experts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Here's the info from the AMA manual:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>"The first radius of a maneuver does not define the
radii for the remaining radii of a maneuver but it is a starting point. As the
maneuver progresses, the judge will compare each radius that was just flown to
the last radius flown and if there is a difference, then a downgrade will be
given based on the severity of the difference."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>FAI is "first, AMA is "next"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So , yes, it would not matter in a half reverse as it only
has two radii, but a full Cuban it would.. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Stuart Chale <<a
href="mailto:schale1@verizon.net" target="_blank">schale1@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Isn't it the reverse? In AMA the first radius sets the
radii for the rest of the maneuver.<br>
And yes Jim the pull up radius has to be the same as the loop portion.<br>
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Stuart C.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 2/25/2013 8:55 PM, Patrick Harris wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In FAI, the "<strong>first"</strong>
radius of the maneuver establishes all radius's of the maneuver. In AMA
classes, the last radius flown in the maneuver establishes the radius of
the next (radius) in the maneuver. . <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM, James Oddino <<a
href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>How about the radii in a half reverse cuban eight
turnaround? Does the radius of the loop have to be the same as the radius
of the pull to 45 degrees? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Jim O<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:13 PM, <a
href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net" target="_blank">tocdon@netscape.net</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A
question on radius judging. Tight radius (or loose radius) manevuer
segments are subject to downgrade in FAI. What constitutes a tight radius?
Physically tight (in feet, for example), or tight (fast speed through the
radius giving the impression that the plane is pulling excessive g's,
however that is interpreted). A slow flying radius could be
extremely tight, for example the last radius at the bottom of the
triangle loop (135 degree pull) or figure Z.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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