[NSRCA-discussion] Real Flight simulator questions

Wed Nov 21 14:01:52 AKST 2012

Vince,

I haven't spent time looking at how to add weight. My guess is you would
have to do it with components. As I mentioned, I changed the battery in the
Spark. One thing you could do is change to a much heavier battery.

I don't know if a field with the box defined is available. but it's
possible to edit an existing field to get a workaround. What you can do is
go to "Edit field" and add something like a tree at the edges of the box. I
think I tried to do this a year or so ago, but for some reason, didn't
follow through.

Pat

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Vicente "Vince" Bortone <
vicenterc at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks Pat.  Check below in *bold.
>
> *
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Patrick Harris" <harris7148 at gmail.com>
>
> *To: *"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:25:20 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Real Flight simulator questions
>
> A few weeks ago I upgraded from 5.0 to 6.0 and found I needed to make some
> adjustments. First off, I have flown every pattern plane in the “swap
> files” and can say (in my opinion), the Spark Evo is by far the best, but
> it didn’t do it right out of the box, so to say. Again, in my opinion, the
> Osiris in the swap files is way off. You can tweak on it a bunch and it
> still isn’t right.
>
>
>
> OK, for you guys that are having problems loading the Spark. When you go
> to the “Swap files” you will find the “Black” Evo. This is the one you want
> to download first. All of the others are just “color variations” and will
> not work without the Black loaded first.
>
>
>
> Question….If your buddy handed you his transmitter and said go fly my
> plane, you most likely would want to make adjustments to get it to your
> liking. The same thing is true with a simulator plane. When I was running
> 5.0 I found I needed to make just a few tweaks to the Evo, but needed some
> pretty radical adjustments in 6.0. The Swap files now have an Evo that is
> supposed to be set up for 6.0, but I didn’t find it to be the case. Also, a
> “contra prop” version is available now. In my case, I find the original
> Black to be the best with adjustments.* I agree.  *
>
> OK, “down line “speed. How would you change it on a real plane? If it’s
> electric we can change the braking, but that is not available in RF. The
> other method is to put on a smaller or larger diameter prop, which we can
> do in RF. The down line speed of the RF Evo is a bit too slow, but I
> haven’t messed with it, but it’s certainly possible to do so.  *I think
> the wing loading is too low and we need to add weight.  I could not find a
> place to do this.  Do you know where? *
>
>
>
> I am not at my home computer now, so I can’t give you guys my tweaks, but
> I can latter today if anyone wants them. I even had to go as far as
> changing the CG and batteries to get the feel I wanted.
>
>
>
> So is it worth the fifty buck upgrade to 6.0? In my opinion without a
> doubt, but I don’t find the planes fly any better. What you are getting is
> two new great features. The first one is “trails”. You can now add a trail
> to your flight path that stays on the screen. You only thought you were
> flying in strait lines until you add trails.  *Great information.  I
> didn't know this.  I use to have the pattern land in the RF2 that was
> great.  I wonder if someone already created a runway with the actual box
> reference out there.  *
>
>
>
> The second is “rewind”. If you hold the reset button on the controller it
> will rewind the flight path. Just last night I used it a bunch. Fly a
> maneuver just a bit off…just rewind and do it again, instead of having to
> set up again for the maneuver. Gezzz, I sound like a RF salesman!*  I
> already got it so you won't get any comision.  *
>
>
>
> It’s a whole different subject, but the biggest question is “will a
> simulator help my pattern flying”? Long story short, it all depends on what
> you put into it and understand the limitations of a simulator. Personally,
> I have found it to be invaluable. I have about twenty real flights on the
> new Masters, but I would guess at least a hundred on the simulator. Winter
> has set in in the Pacific Northwest, so it’s pretty much simulator time
> until spring.  *Agree here too*.
>
>
>
> OK, a couple of things I do. I have not had good luck using “keep ground
> in view”. I find the plane gets too small. I use “automatic zoom” almost
> all the time. You will not have ground reference, but it least you can see
> the plane. *I got same experience.  It is the only way to practice
> pattern in RF6.  Probably because is design to do more 3D and helis.* *Thanks, Vince
> *
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> District 8
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, kingconsulting <kingconsulting at mac.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah noticed that and found them. I think I need to adjust the throws a
>> little or some settings for me. It seemed too twitchy on low rates and not
>> as smooth. Possibly because I'm just not as experienced or used to that
>> style. Also need to look at the expo settings.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Robert King
>>
>>
>>  On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Larry Diamond <webmaster at diamondrc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   When I clicked on the link it didn’t show the versions of the Genesis.
>> In the search box(lower left), type Genesis and it will pull them all up…
>> ****
>>
>>  *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Larry Diamond
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:16 AM
>> *To:* General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Real Flight simulator questions****
>> ** **
>>  I will only say that this Genesis Download shows every mistake just
>> like I do flying at the field.****
>>   ****
>>  http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/downloads.php?do=search****
>>   ****
>>  Here are a few versions of the Genesis to fit your need.****
>>   ****
>>  Hope this helps...****
>>   ****
>>  Happy Turkey Day all !!!!!!!****
>>   ****
>>  Larry Diamond****
>>
>>  *From:* kingconsulting <kingconsulting at mac.com>
>> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:00 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Real Flight simulator questions****
>>
>>  Hi Vicente,****
>>
>>  I'm new to pattern and just joined NSRCA so I'm probably not a good one
>> to help you here. Real Flight has an update to version 6.5. Not sure that
>> will help and actually the planes I fly I didn't notice too much of a
>> difference.****
>>
>>  Most of the pattern planes on there don't seem right to me but then I
>> don't really know what I'm doing yet. The one I do fly (Osiris) isn't a 2m
>> one but is the one I practice with. It does seem pretty close to the actual
>> one that I have. You can get it here:****
>>
>>  http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=14724****
>>
>>  There is also another that I wanted to try of the spark but I can't get
>> it to work on mine. It is here:****
>>
>>  http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=17584****
>>
>>  That one is supposed to be a nice one. Would be curious if you can get
>> it to work. Or if there are any other ones that work good I would be
>> interested also. You might be gas so they may not help at all :)****
>>
>>  Thanks,****
>>
>>  Robert King****
>>
>>  On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:40 AM, "Vicente \"Vince\" Bortone" <
>> vicenterc at comcast.net> wrote:****
>>
>>
>> ****
>>   Hello all,****
>>   ****
>>  It is that time of the year.  I got RF version 6.  I really don't
>> like the down-line speed,  it is not not realistic.  I have been using the
>> RF version 2 for many years and I was able to get fairly realistic with
>> that version.  Just checking if someone in the list is using this program
>> and been able to get more realistic pattern planes.   I got another
>> question.  The RF v2 does not want to work when using windows 7 or up.  Has
>> someone been able to run it?  If yes, please let me know how to fix it.**
>> **
>>   ****
>>
>> Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to all,****
>>  Vicente "Vince" Bortone****
>>
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