[NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals

Fri Mar 9 12:04:14 AKST 2012

What he said...
---- Whodaddy Whodaddy <whodaddy10 at gmail.com> wrote: 
Shoot why even have a weight rule at all 12lb this year 13 next 15 the year after .. I can become a glue dobber instead off a craftsman and just piss glue all over my aircraft and add just what ever I want to the plane .. It will be a load off my mind not to have to have any attention to detail. Then we can call straight and level flight just making it from one end of the box to the other I'm so tired of having to work for such things lest just change the rules because it's to hard.. Shoot the speed limit is just an arbitrary number maybe the board can back doing away with that to... LMAO

Gary

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On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to point out that the BoD had a long discussion about the two proposals in question.  The discussion about the Safety proposal was based on communication between all of us receiving emails, phone calls and monitoring the discussion list.  The opposition was the arming plug (which was in the survey), not the entire proposal as written originally.  Therefore, that portion of the rule proposal was removed and then rewritten as suggested by said communication to look at the "what" and not the "how".  One member brought up that safety should not be based on technology specifics.  We contend that is impossible IF the safety concern stems from the technology itself on top of the human factor that is inherent in this technology. If this proposal finds its way through our AMA Rules Committee, you are not instructed on how to make sure your aircraft is disarmed just make sure it is disarmed.  There is absolutely zero weight to be added, holes to be drilled, money to be spent or any undue effort on the contestant's part in order to accomplish this.
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> Concerning the weight issue, the reasoning behind approving the proposed 5500g was two-fold. Number one, the majority (regardless of how few the majority makes up) suggested that this is what they wanted.  Number two is that Mr. Lachowski has a proposal out there already for an increase to 5200g.  It would make little sense to replicate his proposal and send it to the AMA.  It would stand to reason to give the AMA Rules Committee several choices from which to base their decision on. The NSRCA does not make the rules, we send in our "suggestions" if you will.  The AMA Rules Committee must take these proposals and do what's in the best interest of the community as they see fit.  It is up to them to apply these proposals and make rules out of them.  Should the AMA Rules Committee decide that no weight shall be added or should they decide to accept Mr. Lachowski's proposal or the one passed by the BoD or, as seen in the past, they come out with their own proposal, the NSRCA intends to follow these rules and guidelines to the letter and will support said decisions on all points.
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> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Stuart Chale <schale1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> It really looks like 2 proposals were supported by the group that voted, and 2 proposals were pretty much 50/50  I would defer to a statistician to determine if the slight margin has any statistical significance.  I know it doesn't on one and doubt it does on the other.   Does the NSRCA really want to support (and therefore likely have passed) 2 proposals that if 1 person voted the other way on one and 4 people voted the other way on the other would have resulted in a majority voting against?
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> I strongly urge the powers that be take a closer look at these two proposals before "pushing" them through on half the voters that didn't want them.  The results are too close to say that "we" are in favor of them.
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> Stuart Chale
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> On 3/8/2012 3:50 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:
>> Hello,
>>    As promised, here are the raw results of the survey.  107 unique individuals took the survey.  Individuals that felt it necessary to vote multiple times had their responses deleted and only their original answers accepted.  Based, in part, to Dean Pappas' post on RCU and through the comments listed there, through email, phone conversation, discussion on this list and in person, the Safety Proposal was adjusted to the "What" instead of the "How".  The new Safety Proposal will be posted shortly on the NSRCA website.  The NSRCA BoD met last night to vote on these candidate proposals.  The original Safety proposal was taken off the table (the one that you saw in the survey) and the new proposal was then voted on.  Based on survey results, District VP interaction with his constituents and posts on RCU as well as this NSRCA discussion list, the BoD unanimously passed the new Safety Proposal, the Class Advancement as well as the Telemetry proposal for submittal to the AMA Rules Committee.  The Weight proposal also passed with a vote of 9 to 1.  
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>>    We would like to thank those of you who took the survey and appreciate not only the time that it took for you to fill out the survey, but your dedication to this hobby.  The Rules Proposals will now be sent to the AMA for further review and discussion.  Attached are the survey results both in raw (all members) and NSRCA members only form.  I have also attached all four of the proposals again (with the new Safety Proposal) for your consumption.
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>> Thank you again,
>> Scott
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