[NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update
Phil S.
chuenkan at comcast.net
Thu Jul 12 14:43:15 AKDT 2012
Way to GO!!! That's a thinking Volunteer -- don't think the guy who
turned "volunteer" into a passive verb understood the joke he was making...
On 7/12/2012 10:56 AM, Keith Hoard wrote:
> Have the person administering the exam take their $5 - cash, check,
> EBT card, used glow plugs, whatever - right there on the spot. Then
> the admin just uses his own Paypal and pockets the cash.
>
> Keith Hoard
> Collierville, TN
> khoard at gmail.com <mailto:khoard at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com
> <mailto:scmcharg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Earl,
> The only issue with that would be if someone pays by e-check
> instead of a credit card through PayPal. The e-checks take
> several days to clear and the system cannot allow the user to take
> the exam until the e-check clears. If they pay via credit card,
> that wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, ehaury <ejhaury at comcast.net
> <mailto:ejhaury at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Why not just have a PC available Sunday that folks can use to
> certify online? Maybe someone to help with the process?
> Earl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Archie Stafford <mailto:astafford at md.metrocast.net>
> *To:* General pattern discussion
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> ;
> jonlowe at aol.com <mailto:jonlowe at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update
>
> I am not against having a certification meeting, if
> someone wants to step up and give it. We have a room we
> can use if needed.
>
> Archie
>
>
>
> *On Thu 07/12/12 9:31 AM , jonlowe at aol.com
> <mailto:jonlowe at aol.com> sent:
> *
>
> Thanks. Good to know.
>
> However the front page of the Nsrca site also talks
> about a certification meeting after registration on
> Sunday afternoon.
>
> Jon
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please
> excuse my brevity.
>
> Scott McHarg wrote:
>
> Jon,
> As far as non-NSRCA members are concerned (and
> solely for future reference), one does not need to
> join the NSRCA in order to create a User ID and
> password for the site. That doesn't help "right
> now" but that part is not an issue.
>
> Scott
>
> On Jul 12, 2012 8:21 AM, <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Arch,
> While this doesn't affect me, the letter you
> sent out with the registration confirmation
> says that judging certification is on Sunday
> on the schedule of events on the first page.
> Many Nsrca members are not on this list. How
> are they supposed to know there isn't a
> certification meeting? Since it is in the
> official material, looks like a protest in
> waiting. Further, there is nothing that says
> you have to be an Nsrca member to fly in the
> Nats. How do they get certified if they can't
> get a user name and password for the Nsrca
> site? IMHO it is way too late to change what
> the official mailing stated.
>
> Jon
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail.
> Please excuse my brevity.
>
> Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net>
> wrote:
>
> The 2012 NATS are quickly approaching and
> I wanted to send out a final update.
> Derek Koopowitz has created a site that
> will be the center for NATS updates. On
> this site you can get all of your
> information as well as see the overview of
> what is going on. You will notice a few
> things that are slightly different this
> year. We are going to try a few things
> and see what happens.
>
> First, for anyone flying Masters, you will
> notice the flight orders are different
> than the past. In previous years, the
> groupings were established and you were
> stuck flying in front of, or behind the
> same guy all 6 rounds. This year, we have
> used the grouping as always, but since
> each day is a new contest, we combined the
> two groups on a site that day. This
> allows guys in their same group to call
> for each other, without having that person
> be directly behind them. It also will
> allow people to follow and be in front of
> different pilots each day. Your flight
> order inside your group is essentially
> unchanged, but there will be someone from
> the other group between pilots in a group
> for the most part, except when one group
> is smaller than the other.
>
> Second, we are going to try something new
> for the judging of the finals. This is
> not on that sheet, as we haven't created
> the finals judges, but after talking with
> Earl Haury, our plan is to identify
> ideally 25+ judges for a pool. This will
> allow us to have judges for both Masters
> and FAI, but never having a judge have to
> judge the same sequence twice. We will
> use 5 Masters judges, 10 FAI judges, and 2
> zero judges for the unknowns. The plan
> would be that a judge would just 1 round
> of Masters and 1 round of FAI, either an
> unknown or a known. Obviously, with only
> 25 judges and above parameters, a few
> judges would end up judging a round of
> Masters, a round of known, and a round of
> unknown. This will keep people from
> having to be on the Masters site more than
> 1 round, and also, help with the problem
> in the past of guys judging rounds of
> Masters back to back.
>
> Third, there will be no judges
> certifcation this year on site. With the
> ability to do this online, it eliminates
> the need to have one on site.
>
> Next, you will notice that we are still
> short judges on Wednesday. If you are
> willing to step up and judge a second
> time, please let me know so that we can
> begin to fill in some of these holes. In
> previous years, we have had to scramble on
> site to locate more judges, but we are
> hopeful that by putting this information
> out early that a few people will volunteer
> to fill these slots prior to being on site.
>
> Also, please buy your banquet tickets
> EARLY. This year, it will be on the AMA
> site at the McCullough room, which is
> located adjacent to the museum. It is
> being catered by Johnny Corrino's and we
> will have a choice of the different types
> of pasta as well as salad and a dessert.
> We will have an open CASH bar on site as
> well. Banquet tickets will be only
> $15.00. We will have an open CASH bar on
> site as well. At the banquet this year,
> since it is on Wednesday, we will hand out
> Intermediate, and Advanced awards in front
> of everyone. FAI, and Masters finalists,
> will be announced, flight orders drawn,
> and the unknowns will be handed out to the
> FAI pilots.
>
> Finally,
>
> I want to say a huge thank you to everyone
> who has helped put all this together. I
> can not thank Scott Smith enough for the
> job he has done developing a new scoring
> software which made this all possible.
> Not only does it continuously keep score
> for Masters and FAI, even with the Matrix,
> but it also is capable of creating flight
> orders, and the judging matrix. This will
> be an incredibly valuable tool, even on a
> local level. Scott did all of this purely
> as a volunteer and I have no idea how many
> hundreds of hours of his own time he
> devoted to this. By using his software,
> as soon as a round is complete, even if
> Masters and FAI, we can export the file as
> a .pdf and Pete Cosky will then load it on
> to the NATS website on the NSRCA page.
> Our goal is within 30 minutes to 1 hour of
> the conclusion of flying that the scores
> will be posted on this site.
>
> OK, now for the disclaimer. This site is
> still technically not finished. We could
> have pilots drop out and such, and may
> need to fill holes. Please use this site
> as a reference only, and please verify
> once you are on site that nothing for you
> has changed. Also, you will notice, as
> this site is on a public page, that my
> cell phone and Pete's cell phone are X'd
> out. On your pilot packages, our numbers
> will be printed, so anyone needing to
> reach us once in Muncie will have that
> opportunity.
>
> Here is the link to the site.
>
> http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012
> Be safe on your travels, and we will see
> everyone next weekend in Muncie.
> Archie Stafford
> 2012 Pattern NATS Event Director
>
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