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Way to GO!!! That's a thinking Volunteer -- don't think the guy who
turned "volunteer" into a passive verb understood the joke he was
making...<br>
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On 7/12/2012 10:56 AM, Keith Hoard wrote:
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type="cite">Have the person administering the exam take their $5 -
cash, check, EBT card, used glow plugs, whatever - right there on the
spot. Then the admin just uses his own Paypal and pockets the cash.<br
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Keith Hoard<br>
Collierville, TN<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Scott
McHarg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>></span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Earl,<br>
The only issue with that would be if someone pays by e-check instead
of a credit card through PayPal. The e-checks take several days to
clear and the system cannot allow the user to take the exam until the
e-check clears. If they pay via credit card, that wouldn't be a
problem.<br>
<br>
Scott
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, ehaury <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net" target="_blank">ejhaury@comcast.net</a>></span>
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<div><font face="Arial">Why not just have a PC available Sunday
that folks can use to certify online? Maybe someone to help with the
process?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Earl</font></div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" title="astafford@md.metrocast.net"
href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">Archie
Stafford</a> </div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">General
pattern discussion</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="jonlowe@aol.com" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>
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Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36 AM</div>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update</div>
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<p>I am not against having a certification meeting, if someone
wants to step up and give it. We have a room we can use if needed.</p>
<p>Archie<br>
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<b>On Thu 07/12/12 9:31 AM , <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a> sent:<br>
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style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(81, 103, 198); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">Thanks.
Good to know. <br>
<br>
However the front page of the Nsrca site also talks about a
certification meeting after registration on Sunday afternoon.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Scott McHarg wrote:
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<p>Jon,<br>
As far as non-NSRCA members are concerned (and solely for future
reference), one does not need to join the NSRCA in order to create a
User ID and password for the site. That doesn't help "right now" but
that part is not an issue.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 12, 2012 8:21 AM, <<a
moz-do-not-send="true">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br
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class="gmail_quote">Arch,<br>
While this doesn't affect me, the letter you sent out with the
registration confirmation says that judging certification is on Sunday
on the schedule of events on the first page. Many Nsrca members are not
on this list. How are they supposed to know there isn't a certification
meeting? Since it is in the official material, looks like a protest in
waiting. Further, there is nothing that says you have to be an Nsrca
member to fly in the Nats. How do they get certified if they can't get
a user name and password for the Nsrca site? IMHO it is way too late to
change what the official mailing stated.<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Archie Stafford <<a
moz-do-not-send="true">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>> wrote:
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<p>The 2012 NATS are quickly approaching and I wanted
to send out a final update. Derek Koopowitz has created a site that
will be the center for NATS updates. On this site you can get all of
your information as well as see the overview of what is going on. You
will notice a few things that are slightly different this year. We are
going to try a few things and see what happens.</p>
<p>First, for anyone flying Masters, you will notice
the flight orders are different than the past. In previous years, the
groupings were established and you were stuck flying in front of, or
behind the same guy all 6 rounds. This year, we have used the grouping
as always, but since each day is a new contest, we combined the two
groups on a site that day. This allows guys in their same group to
call for each other, without having that person be directly behind
them. It also will allow people to follow and be in front of different
pilots each day. Your flight order inside your group is essentially
unchanged, but there will be someone from the other group between
pilots in a group for the most part, except when one group is smaller
than the other.</p>
<p>Second, we are going to try something new for the
judging of the finals. This is not on that sheet, as we haven't
created the finals judges, but after talking with Earl Haury, our plan
is to identify ideally 25+ judges for a pool. This will allow us to
have judges for both Masters and FAI, but never having a judge have to
judge the same sequence twice. We will use 5 Masters judges, 10 FAI
judges, and 2 zero judges for the unknowns. The plan would be that a
judge would just 1 round of Masters and 1 round of FAI, either an
unknown or a known. Obviously, with only 25 judges and above
parameters, a few judges would end up judging a round of Masters, a
round of known, and a round of unknown. This will keep people from
having to be on the Masters site more than 1 round, and also, help with
the problem in the past of guys judging rounds of Masters back to
back. </p>
<p>Third, there will be no judges certifcation this
year on site. With the ability to do this online, it eliminates the
need to have one on site. </p>
<p>Next, you will notice that we are still short judges
on Wednesday. If you are willing to step up and judge a second time,
please let me know so that we can begin to fill in some of these holes.
In previous years, we have had to scramble on site to locate more
judges, but we are hopeful that by putting this information out early
that a few people will volunteer to fill these slots prior to being on
site.</p>
<p>Also, please buy your banquet tickets EARLY. This
year, it will be on the AMA site at the McCullough room, which is
located adjacent to the museum. It is being catered by Johnny
Corrino's and we will have a choice of the different types of pasta as
well as salad and a dessert. We will have an open CASH bar on site as
well. Banquet tickets will be only $15.00. We will have an open CASH
bar on site as well. At the banquet this year, since it is on
Wednesday, we will hand out Intermediate, and Advanced awards in front
of everyone. FAI, and Masters finalists, will be announced, flight
orders drawn, and the unknowns will be handed out to the FAI pilots.</p>
<p>Finally,</p>
<p>I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has
helped put all this together. I can not thank Scott Smith enough for
the job he has done developing a new scoring software which made this
all possible. Not only does it continuously keep score for Masters and
FAI, even with the Matrix, but it also is capable of creating flight
orders, and the judging matrix. This will be an incredibly valuable
tool, even on a local level. Scott did all of this purely as a
volunteer and I have no idea how many hundreds of hours of his own time
he devoted to this. By using his software, as soon as a round is
complete, even if Masters and FAI, we can export the file as a .pdf and
Pete Cosky will then load it on to the NATS website on the NSRCA page.
Our goal is within 30 minutes to 1 hour of the conclusion of flying
that the scores will be posted on this site.</p>
<p>OK, now for the disclaimer. This site is still
technically not finished. We could have pilots drop out and such, and
may need to fill holes. Please use this site as a reference only, and
please verify once you are on site that nothing for you has changed.
Also, you will notice, as this site is on a public page, that my cell
phone and Pete's cell phone are X'd out. On your pilot packages, our
numbers will be printed, so anyone needing to reach us once in Muncie
will have that opportunity. </p>
<p>Here is the link to the site. </p>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-family: Tahoma; color: rgb(40, 34, 17); font-size: 10pt;">http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012</span></a>
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<div>Be safe on your travels, and we will see everyone
next weekend in Muncie.</div>
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<div>Archie Stafford</div>
<div>2012 Pattern NATS Event Director</div>
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