[NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update

Thu Jul 12 07:09:06 AKDT 2012

Keith,
   You are officially volunteered. ;)

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM, mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great idea!!!
>
>   *From:* Keith Hoard <khoard at gmail.com>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:56 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update
>
> Have the person administering the exam take their $5 - cash, check, EBT
> card, used glow plugs, whatever - right there on the spot.  Then the admin
> just uses his own Paypal and pockets the cash.
>
> Keith Hoard
> Collierville, TN
> khoard at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Earl,
>    The only issue with that would be if someone pays by e-check instead of
> a credit card through PayPal.  The e-checks take several days to clear and
> the system cannot allow the user to take the exam until the e-check
> clears.  If they pay via credit card, that wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, ehaury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> **
> Why not just have a PC available Sunday that folks can use to certify
> online? Maybe someone to help with the process?
>
> Earl
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> ;
> jonlowe at aol.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update
>
>  I am not against having a certification meeting, if someone wants to
> step up and give it.  We have a room we can use if needed.
> Archie
>
>
>
> *On Thu 07/12/12 9:31 AM , jonlowe at aol.com sent:
> *
>
> **Thanks. Good to know.
>
> However the front page of the Nsrca site also talks about a certification
> meeting after registration on Sunday afternoon.
>
> Jon
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> Scott McHarg **wrote:
>
> Jon,
> As far as non-NSRCA members are concerned (and solely for future
> reference), one does not need to join the NSRCA in order to create a User
> ID and password for the site.  That doesn't help "right now" but that part
> is not an issue.
> Scott
> On Jul 12, 2012 8:21 AM, <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Arch,
> While this doesn't affect me, the letter you sent out with the
> registration confirmation says that judging certification is on Sunday on
> the schedule of events on the first page. Many Nsrca members are not on
> this list. How are they supposed to know there isn't a certification
> meeting? Since it is in the official material, looks like a protest in
> waiting. Further, there is nothing that says you have to be an Nsrca member
> to fly in the Nats. How do they get certified if they can't get a user name
> and password for the Nsrca site? IMHO it is way too late to change what the
> official mailing stated.
>
> Jon
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net> wrote:
>
> The 2012 NATS are quickly approaching and I wanted to send out a final
> update.  Derek Koopowitz has created a site that will be the center for
> NATS updates.  On this site you can get all of your information as well as
> see the overview of what is going on.  You will notice a few things that
> are slightly different this year.  We are going to try a few things and see
> what happens.
> First, for anyone flying Masters, you will notice the flight orders are
> different than the past.  In previous years, the groupings were established
> and you were stuck flying in front of, or behind the same guy all 6
> rounds.  This year, we have used the grouping as always, but since each day
> is a new contest, we combined the two groups on a site that day.  This
> allows guys in their same group to call for each other, without having that
> person be directly behind them.  It also will allow people to follow and be
> in front of different pilots each day.  Your flight order inside your group
> is essentially unchanged, but there will be someone from the other group
> between pilots in a group for the most part, except when one group is
> smaller than the other.
> Second, we are going to try something new for the judging of the finals.
> This is not on that sheet, as we haven't created the finals judges, but
> after talking with Earl Haury, our plan is to identify ideally 25+ judges
> for a pool.  This will allow us to have judges for both Masters and FAI,
> but never having a judge have to judge the same sequence twice.  We will
> use 5 Masters judges, 10 FAI judges, and 2 zero judges for the unknowns.
> The plan would be that a judge would just 1 round of Masters and 1 round of
> FAI, either an unknown or a known.  Obviously, with only 25 judges and
> above parameters, a few judges would end up judging a round of Masters, a
> round of known, and a round of unknown.  This will keep people from having
> to be on the Masters site more than 1 round, and also, help with the
> problem in the past of guys judging rounds of Masters back to back.
> Third, there will be no judges certifcation this year on site.  With the
> ability to do this online, it eliminates the need to have one on site.
> Next, you will notice that we are still short judges on Wednesday.  If you
> are willing to step up and judge a second time, please let me know so that
> we can begin to fill in some of these holes. In previous years, we have had
> to scramble on site to locate more judges, but we are hopeful that by
> putting this information out early that a few people will volunteer to fill
> these slots prior to being on site.
> Also, please buy your banquet tickets EARLY.  This year, it will be on the
> AMA site at the McCullough room, which is located adjacent to the museum.
> It is being catered by Johnny Corrino's and we will have a choice of the
> different types of pasta as well as salad and a dessert.  We will have an
> open CASH bar on site as well.  Banquet tickets will be only $15.00.  We
> will have an open CASH bar on site as well.  At the banquet this year,
> since it is on Wednesday, we will hand out Intermediate, and Advanced
> awards in front of everyone.  FAI, and Masters finalists, will be
> announced, flight orders drawn, and the unknowns will be handed out to the
> FAI pilots.
> Finally,
> I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has helped put all this
> together.  I can not thank Scott Smith enough for the job he has done
> developing a new scoring software which made this all possible.  Not only
> does it continuously keep score for Masters and FAI, even with the Matrix,
> but it also is capable of creating flight orders, and the judging matrix.
> This will be an incredibly valuable tool, even on a local level.  Scott did
> all of this purely as a volunteer and I have no idea how many hundreds of
> hours of his own time he devoted to this.  By using his software, as soon
> as a round is complete, even if Masters and FAI, we can export the file as
> a .pdf and Pete Cosky will then load it on to the NATS website on the NSRCA
> page.  Our goal is within 30 minutes to 1 hour of the conclusion of flying
> that the scores will be posted on this site.
> OK, now for the disclaimer.  This site is still technically not finished.
> We could have pilots drop out and such, and may need to fill holes.  Please
> use this site as a reference only, and please verify once you are on site
> that nothing for you has changed.  Also, you will notice, as this site is
> on a public page, that my cell phone and Pete's cell phone are X'd out. On
> your pilot packages, our numbers will be printed, so anyone needing to
> reach us once in Muncie will have that opportunity.
> Here is the link to the site.
> http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012
>
>
> Be safe on your travels, and we will see everyone next weekend in Muncie.
>
> Archie Stafford
> 2012 Pattern NATS Event Director
>
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