[NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete

[J N Hiller]

Hear we go again!
Keeping 'eyes on airplane' is of little benefit when the brain's
concentration or thought is elsewhere. The distraction incurred trying to
operate a remote devise will likely outweigh the benefits, at least for many
of us willing to admit it. I find writing numbers in a line along the edge
of a clipboard to be the least distracting.

Jim

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I don't agree....Trying to hunt and peck on a small phone flat screen while
also trying NOT to take your eye off the plane, is no simple matter. I don't
doubt some folks can do it but that's not possible for everyone sitting the
chair.

Throw in the fact that AMA classes require scoring to 1/2 point precision
and you at least doubled the problem.

I still think that RVP's technique from 10 years ago of jotting your score
on a pad and then transferring the info to the official score sheet, is the
simplest, easiest method.....my 2c

MattK


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From: Keith Hoard <khoard at gmail.com>
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Too simple, it'll never catch on.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:54, Peter Vogel < vogel.peter at gmail.com
<mailto:vogel.peter at gmail.com> > wrote:
Exactly. With 12 finger size buttons and an 'enter'.  0-10 and a .5 button.
Very quick and hitting enter finalizes. Enter with no score button is Not
Observed and then at the end you review the scoresheet, make any corrections
you want and hit enter one more time.  Arresti at the bottom for reference.

Sent from my iPhone4S

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Keith Hoard < khoard at gmail.com
<mailto:khoard at gmail.com> > wrote:
Bob,

    I've been thinking of just this system for a couple years now.  If you
were using a smart phone, you could hold it up near your line of sight
during the flight and tap in your score without taking your eyes off the
plane.  Perhaps even a graphic of the maneuver for quick reference?

Keith Hoard
Collierville, TN
khoard at gmail.com <mailto:khoard at gmail.com>




On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Bob Kane < getterflash at yahoo.com
<mailto:getterflash at yahoo.com> > wrote:
All of the sites I hit on the pattern circuit here in D4-D5 have cellular
service, most are near large metro areas so 3G should be avaliable also.

I would be a little concerned about the ability to punch in a score on a
screen (even if i was a single "button") especailly in the event of a
mistake. A judge could be distracted trying to correct a score. A
pencil/paper system is hard to beat for ease of use and quick error
correction.

Bob Kane
getterflash at yahoo.com <mailto:getterflash at yahoo.com>
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the
fields where you compete

I've been thinking about a "better way" to get scores into a system like
PACSS, given the general ubiquity of smart phones and the overall tech savvy
among the pattern crowd, I believe it should be possible for a judge or
scribe to very quickly enter scores for each maneuver into an iOS or Android
phone or tablet communicating via the cellular data network (typical data is
so small as to be VERY lightweight on data usage, so even Edge data services
would be quick enough to record scores) the interface would be designed for
very fast entry of a score (two taps per maneuver scored) with the interface
optimized for the screen size of phone or tablet.

Here in California, I have yet to visit a field where I didn't have 3G data
service, but I realize California can be an outlier in such matters.

So, of the fields where you have competed in the last year, how many had 3G
data service?  Edge? and No Data service?

How many of you have a smart phone and/or tablet?

Thanks!
Peter+


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