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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hear we go
again!<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Keeping 'eyes
on airplane' is of little benefit when the brain's concentration or thought is
elsewhere. The distraction incurred trying to operate a remote devise will
likely outweigh the benefits, at least for many of us willing to admit it. I
find writing numbers in a line along the edge of a clipboard to be the least distracting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 08, 2011
9:10 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I don't
agree....Trying to hunt and peck on a small phone flat screen while also trying
NOT to take your eye off the plane, is no simple matter. I don't doubt some
folks can do it but that's not possible for everyone sitting the chair. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Throw
in the fact that AMA classes require scoring to 1/2 point precision and you at
least doubled the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I still
think that RVP's technique from 10 years ago of jotting your score on a pad and
then transferring the info to the official score sheet, is the simplest,
easiest method.....my 2c<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>MattK<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Keith Hoard <khoard@gmail.com><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 11:12 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the
fields where you compete<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Too
simple, it'll never catch on. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:54, Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Exactly. With 12 finger
size buttons and an 'enter'. 0-10 and a .5 button. Very quick and
hitting enter finalizes. Enter with no score button is Not Observed and then at
the end you review the scoresheet, make any corrections you want and hit enter
one more time. Arresti at the bottom for reference. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone4S<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Bob,<br>
<br>
I've been thinking of just this system for a couple years
now. If you were using a smart phone, you could hold it up near your line
of sight during the flight and tap in your score without taking your eyes off
the plane. Perhaps even a graphic of the maneuver for quick reference?<br
clear=all>
<br>
Keith Hoard<br>
Collierville, TN<br>
<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>On Thu,
Dec 8, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Bob Kane <<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>All of the sites I hit on the pattern circuit here in D4-D5 have
cellular service, most are near large metro areas so 3G should be avaliable
also.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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0in;margin-left:112.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
0in;margin-left:112.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>I would be a little concerned about the ability to punch in a
score on a screen (even if i was a single "button") especailly in the
event of a mistake. A judge could be distracted trying to correct a
score. A pencil/paper system is hard to beat for ease of use and quick
error correction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
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size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#888888'>Bob Kane<br>
<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='MIN-HEIGHT: 0px' readonly=""><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#888888;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b></span><span
class=hoenzb><font size=2 color="#888888" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#888888'> Peter Vogel <<a
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>></span></font></span><font
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<span class=hoenzb><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General
pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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<span class=hoenzb><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
December 8, 2011 3:05 AM</span></span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Quick
question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I've been
thinking about a "better way" to get scores into a system like PACSS,
given the general ubiquity of smart phones and the overall tech savvy among the
pattern crowd, I believe it should be possible for a judge or scribe to very
quickly enter scores for each maneuver into an iOS or Android phone or tablet
communicating via the cellular data network (typical data is so small as to be
VERY lightweight on data usage, so even Edge data services would be quick
enough to record scores) the interface would be designed for very fast entry of
a score (two taps per maneuver scored) with the interface optimized for the
screen size of phone or tablet. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Here in California,
I have yet to visit a field where I didn't have 3G data service, but I realize
California can be an outlier in such matters. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
3.75pt;margin-left:112.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>So, of the
fields where you have competed in the last year, how many had 3G data service?
Edge? and No Data service?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>How many of
you have a smart phone and/or tablet?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peter+<br
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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