[NSRCA-discussion] Judge Rank, 2009 Masters Final

[Ron Van Putte]

The ranking system is not perfect.

Sure we'd like a larger sample size, but I don't know anywhere that  
has more than five judges.

Second, a judge's score is dependent on the other judges.  If a judge  
does a good job in a group of good judges, his scores will be high.   
However, if a judge does just as well in a group of less qualified  
judges, his scores will be lower.  That's why judges have  
"throwaways" in the overall judge rankings.

Ron

On Sep 18, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Jon Lowe wrote:

> Thanks Ron.  I guess the two columns are from the two rounds we  
> judged in 2009.  I think the inconsistency shown is representative  
> of the conditions in which my group was judging.  20-25 mph winds,  
> colder than a ....  And not to be disrespectful to the flyers that  
> day under very difficult conditions, but the flying was also all  
> over the map; I remember seeing some 8.5's or 9's, followed by a  
> series of 5's and 6's.  Clearly shows the need for a larger sample  
> size, but I'm not sure we will get it, using only judging from Nats  
> finals.  I did not judge Masters finals this year (was supposed to  
> do FAI, but got rained out).
>
> Jon Lowe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2010 8:32 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Rank, 2009 Masters Final
>
> Perhaps it's time to reprint an explanation of the NSRCA judge  
> ranking system. Judges are ranked based on how they compared in  
> scoring pilots relative to the judging group they were in and in  
> their relative placing of all pilots, also compared to the judging  
> group they were in. A perfect score of 1000 means that a judge  
> agreed with the scores and placins of the judging group.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Jon Lowe wrote:
>
> > I have no clue what is being presented here. What does this mean?
> >
> > Jon Lowe
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rcmaster199 at aol.com
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Sent: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:45 pm
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Rank, 2009 Masters Final
> >
> > Judge Rankings from 2009 Masters Final. Belated information for >  
> inquiring minds; This will be on the NSRCA website at some point, >  
> as I complete the assessment:
> >
> > Judge: Scores
> > R Lewis 879.0 875.2
> > G Miller 824.3 804.2
> > J Lowe 720.8 861.4
> > T Romano 778.9 946.0
> > M Hunt 757.1 769.8
> > B Clemmons 903.8 785.1
> > J Dunnaway 783.7 816.8
> > J Lechowski 787.3 843.1
> > RVP 877.2 781.3
> > T Terrenoiser 884.6 866.9
> >
> > Note: First 5 judges judged rounds 1 and 2; the last 5, rounds 3  
> and 4
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > MattK
> >
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