[NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop

[rcmaster199 at aol.com]

Mike,
 
I don't mean to imply a super powerful set-up. Dave's is very strong but there are wet set-ups that produce more ponies.  My ZDZ 40cc for example. 
 
I am saying that the available power is shaped perfectly for F3A and the lower classes and the brakes are superb....better than anything else I've seen. The flying can be shaped accordingly.
 
What I need for the small gassie is a  LIGHT belt drive to turn a 21x13 MDK prop at about 6600. Brakes should be equivalent. I think it's doable but certainly not ready for prime time
 
MattK




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From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 6:03 pm
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I would agree that a properly running YS170 is still competitive…..but with the “cost” of more fiddling, more maintenance, and less margin on the noise meter.  For anyone starting from scratch….I think it is getting very hard to make the argument that electric is more expensive.
 
The Neu F3A certainly is putting the most RPM to the prop of any of the currently used electric setups, and the potential “cost” is that when propped to make the big power…..it also has the capability of smoking lipos if the throttle hand is too heavy.  The newer higher KV Plett Evo might be in this category as well, but I’ve not seen one run yet.
 
Regards,

Dave
 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of mike mueller
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop

 
 Well stated Matt. Although I do have to say that the most balistic and powerful plane I saw at the Nats was Bobby Satalino's Beryl with a non CDI YS 170. Next in performance was anything with a Neu like Dave Lockhart. 

 E. has many options that deliver the mail. Still a good YS is viable. Mike

--- On Sat, 7/24/10, rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com> wrote:


From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:06 PM
I took a 3 minute flight on Dave Lockhart's Bravo several weeks ago...it was my first on a full blown electric. And it was enough to convince me that wet powered systems are behind. 

 

The Electric Bravo is superior in its powerplant than practically every wet set-up I've seen. (That's not necessarily true of all electrics but Dave's set-up is something else...like cheating)

 

It's gonna be expensive but if one wants to be really serious about pattern, electric power has got to be in your future. And no, it has nothing to do with judging in my opinion. Electric just makes power delivery (of the type we demand in pattern), easy.

 

MattK

 

 

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From: shinden1 at cox.net
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Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop


 
I smell electric in your future! 
   
   Bryan 
   
   ---- Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net> wrote:  
   
   > Now that the NATS are done, I'm going through some stuff and getting rid of 
   
   > things I'm not using.  I wanted to post the items here first. 
   
   >  
   
   > 1 NIB YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition - 800.00 (this setup has never run) 
   
   > 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with new ignition 700.00 
   
   > 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with used ignition 
   
   > (still runs perfect) 600.00 
   
   >  
   
   > 1 Hatori 821 Pipe brand new, no box  120.00 
   
   > 1 Hatori 821 pipe used, but perfect condition 75.00 
   
   >  
   
   > Please email me directly at astafford at md.metrocast.net   
   
   >  
   
   > Arch 
   
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