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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I don't mean to imply a super powerful set-up. Dave's is very strong but there are wet set-ups that produce more ponies. My ZDZ 40cc for example. </div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am saying that the available power is shaped perfectly for F3A and the lower classes and the brakes are superb....better than anything else I've seen. The flying can be shaped accordingly.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What I need for the small gassie is a LIGHT belt drive to turn a 21x13 MDK prop at about 6600. Brakes should be equivalent. I think it's doable but certainly not ready for prime time</div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32 PM<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> E. has many options that deliver the mail. Still a good YS is viable. Mike<br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br>
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