[NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Wed Jul 7 06:53:14 AKDT 2010

..so much for the element of pilot creativity...lol.

Dave

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
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We also need the "zero's Judges" whose sole responsibility is to say whether
or not they did the correct manuever, not how well they did it. Takes a huge
load off the judges, who now just score the elements of the maneuver.   This
is especially true for the unknowns.

Jon Lowe

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It was also critical in the finals for the unknowns.  Makes it MUCH MUCH
easier to judge the nuances of the sequences.     It's also critical that
the judges get the unknowns the night before so they have a chance to learn
them as best they can.   

Mark Atwood

Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?> ] On Behalf Of mike
mueller
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM
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 Derek, 2 years ago when I was judging FAI in the F09 in the semi's you were
calling the manuevers for the judges. That really helped. I suggest that we
have that in place again for the first year of this new sequence it makes a
big difference. At local contests we get very little exposure to the F
pattern and in fact all 3 local contests that I've attended this year had
the F patterns cancelled due to weather. Here in our area we've never gotten
a chance to learn the new pattern and I feel I'd be at a great disadvantage.
Mike

--- On Wed, 7/7/10, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 8:55 AM

Yes, the long and the short of it.  LOL

All F3A finals judges will go through a comprehensive discussion of the
sequences and "things" to watch for prior to the finals.

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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?> ] On Behalf Of Atwood,
Mark
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:13 AM
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So the short version is that if we were ok to judge at the nats last year,
we're still good for this year?   I was thinking that a new FAI pattern
meant new certification. (don't get me wrong, I'm happy to not have to go
through it).

-Mark

Mark Atwood

Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com
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|  www.paragon-inc.com <http://www.paragon-inc.com/> 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?> ] On Behalf Of Derek
Koopowitz
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:37 PM
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Unfortunately the list on the website is not current at all - it is over a
year old.  I believe that list was produced about May last year.  If your
name is on that list then you are current for this year as well but anyone
that has been certified since that time has not been added to the list.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net
<http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ejhaury@comcast.net> > wrote:

Derek

Is the list on the website valid?

Earl

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From: Derek Koopowitz
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Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:01 AM

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I'll post the judging certification requirements on the website this
evening... Matt Kebabjian also wrote an article which is in the June issue
of the K-Factor. 

As for a list... I'm working on it.  :-)

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
<http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com> >
wrote:

What are the judging certification requirements this year?  Is there a
"list" to check to see if we're good to go?

Mark Atwood

Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com
<http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com>
|  www.paragon-inc.com <http://www.paragon-inc.com/> 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41 AM
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Monday.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:36 AM
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Quickie:  Is the competition flying going to begin on Sunday?  Or will it
begin on Monday?

TIA

Bill Glaze

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