[NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Wed Jul 7 06:41:23 AKDT 2010

We also need the "zero's Judges" whose sole responsibility is to say whether or not they did the correct manuever, not how well they did it. Takes a huge load off the judges, who now just score the elements of the maneuver.   This is especially true for the unknowns.

Jon Lowe

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From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
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It was also critical in the finals for the unknowns.  Makes itMUCH MUCH easier to judge the nuances of the sequences.     It’s also criticalthat the judges get the unknowns the night before so they have a chance tolearn them as best they can.   

Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
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Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax:440.684.3102
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of mikemueller
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM
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 Derek, 2 years ago when I was judging FAI in the F09  in the semi's you were calling the manuevers for the judges. That really  helped. I suggest that we have that in place again for the first year of  this new sequence it makes a big difference. At local contests we get very  little exposure to the F pattern and in fact all 3 local contests  that I've attended this year had the F patterns cancelled due to weather.  Here in our area we've never gotten a chance to learn the new pattern and I  feel I'd be at a great disadvantage. Mike

  --- On Wed, 7/7/10, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>  wrote:

  From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
  To: "'General pattern discussion'"  <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 8:55 AM

Yes,  the long and the short of it.  LOL

All  F3A finals judges will go through a comprehensive discussion of the sequences  and “things” to watch for prior to the finals.

From:  nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:13 AM
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So  the short version is that if we were ok to judge at the nats last year, we’re  still good for this year?   I was thinking that a new FAI pattern  meant new certification… (don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to not have to go  through it).

-Mark

Mark  Atwood

Paragon  Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive  Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone:  440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax:  440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com   |  www.paragon-inc.com

From:  nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek  Koopowitz
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:37 PM
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Unfortunately  the list on the website is not current at all - it is over a year old.   I believe that list was produced about May last year.  If your  name is on that list then you are current for this year as well but anyone  that has been certified since that time has not been added to the list.

On  Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net>  wrote:

Derek

Is the list on the website valid?

Earl

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From: Derek  Koopowitz 

To: General pattern discussion 

Sent: Tuesday, July 06,  2010 10:01 AM

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I'll  post the judging certification requirements on the website this evening...  Matt Kebabjian also wrote an article which is in the June issue of the  K-Factor. 

As  for a list... I'm working on it.  :-)

On  Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>  wrote:

What are the judging certification  requirements this year?  Is there a “list” to check to see if we’re good  to go?

Mark Atwood

Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite  130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com   |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41 AM
  To: 'General pattern discussion'
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Monday.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:36 AM
  To: General pattern discussion
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Quickie:  Is the competition flying going to  begin on Sunday?  Or will it begin on Monday?

TIA

Bill Glaze

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