[NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Wed Jul 7 07:07:27 AKDT 2010

Hey, I've watched you fly!  You get creative enough!!!  ;)

Jon Lowe

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From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
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….so much for the element of pilotcreativity…..lol.

Dave

From:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
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We also need the "zero's Judges" whose soleresponsibility is to say whether or not they did the correct manuever, not howwell they did it. Takes a huge load off the judges, who now just score theelements of the maneuver.   This is especially true for the unknowns.

Jon Lowe

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From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
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It was also criticalin the finals for the unknowns.  Makes it MUCH MUCH easier to judge thenuances of the sequences.     It’s also critical that thejudges get the unknowns the night before so they have a chance to learn them asbest they can.   

MarkAtwood

ParagonConsulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of mike mueller
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 201010:16 AM
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 Derek, 2 years ago when I was judging FAI in  the F09 in the semi's you were calling the manuevers for the judges. That  really helped. I suggest that we have that in place again for the first  year of this new sequence it makes a big difference. At local contests  we get very little exposure to the F pattern and in fact all  3 local contests that I've attended this year had the F patterns  cancelled due to weather. Here in our area we've never gotten a chance to  learn the new pattern and I feel I'd be at a great disadvantage. Mike

  --- On Wed, 7/7/10, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>  wrote:

  From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
  To: "'General pattern discussion'"  <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 8:55 AM

Yes, the long and  the short of it.  LOL

All F3A finals  judges will go through a comprehensive discussion of the sequences and  “things” to watch for prior to the finals.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010  6:13 AM
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So the short version  is that if we were ok to judge at the nats last year, we’re still good for  this year?   I was thinking that a new FAI pattern meant new  certification… (don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to not have to go through it).

-Mark

Mark  Atwood

Paragon  Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101  x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010  2:37 PM
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  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]  NATS

Unfortunately the list on the website is not current  at all - it is over a year old.  I believe that list was produced about  May last year.  If your name is on that list then you are current for  this year as well but anyone that has been certified since that time has not  been added to the list.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:

Derek

Is the list on the website valid?

Earl

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From: Derek Koopowitz 

To: General pattern  discussion 

Sent: Tuesday, July  06, 2010 10:01 AM

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I'll post the judging certification requirements on  the website this evening... Matt Kebabjian also wrote an article which is in  the June issue of the K-Factor. 

As for a list... I'm working on it.  :-)

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:

What are the judging certification  requirements this year?  Is there a “list” to check to see if we’re good  to go?

Mark Atwood

Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President

5885 Landerbrook Drive    Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 

Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax:  440.684.3102

mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010  9:41 AM
  To: 'General   pattern discussion'
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]  NATS

Monday.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010  6:36 AM
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  Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Quickie:  Is the competition flying going to  begin on Sunday?  Or will it begin on Monday?

TIA

Bill Glaze

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