<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">We also need the "zero's Judges" whose sole responsibility is to say whether or not they did the correct manuever, not how well they did it. Takes a huge load off the judges, who now just score the elements of the maneuver. This is especially true for the unknowns.</span><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font color="black" size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Jon Lowe</font></font></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 9:21 am<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">It was also critical in the finals for the unknowns. Makes it
MUCH MUCH easier to judge the nuances of the sequences. It’s also critical
that the judges get the unknowns the night before so they have a chance to
learn them as best they can. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mike
mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"> Derek, 2 years ago when I was judging FAI in the F09
in the semi's you were calling the manuevers for the judges. That really
helped. I suggest that we have that in place again for the first year of
this new sequence it makes a big difference. At local contests we get very
little exposure to the F pattern and in fact all 3 local contests
that I've attended this year had the F patterns cancelled due to weather.
Here in our area we've never gotten a chance to learn the new pattern and I
feel I'd be at a great disadvantage. Mike<br>
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--- On <b>Wed, 7/7/10, Derek Koopowitz <i><<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:</div>
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From: Derek Koopowitz <<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS<br>
To: "'General pattern discussion'"
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 8:55 AM</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes,
the long and the short of it. LOL</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All
F3A finals judges will go through a comprehensive discussion of the sequences
and “things” to watch for prior to the finals.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood, Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So
the short version is that if we were ok to judge at the nats last year, we’re
still good for this year? I was thinking that a new FAI pattern
meant new certification… (don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to not have to go
through it).</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Mark</span></div>
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Atwood</span></b></div>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black">|</span></b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"; color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";color:#1351F3"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/"><u><span style="color:blue">www.paragon-inc.com</span></u></a></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Derek
Koopowitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Unfortunately
the list on the website is not current at all - it is over a year old.
I believe that list was produced about May last year. If your
name is on that list then you are current for this year as well but anyone
that has been certified since that time has not been added to the list.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Earl Haury <<a target="_blank" href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ejhaury@comcast.net"><u><span style="color:blue">ejhaury@comcast.net</span></u></a>>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Derek</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is the list on the website valid?</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Earl</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <a target="_blank" href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com" title="derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"><u><span style="color:blue">Derek
Koopowitz</span></u></a> </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <a target="_blank" href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style="color:blue">General pattern discussion</span></u></a> </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Tuesday, July 06,
2010 10:01 AM</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'll
post the judging certification requirements on the website this evening...
Matt Kebabjian also wrote an article which is in the June issue of the
K-Factor. </div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As
for a list... I'm working on it. :-)</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Atwood, Mark <<a target="_blank" href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"><u><span style="color:blue">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</span></u></a>>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What are the judging certification
requirements this year? Is there a “list” to check to see if we’re good
to go?</span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Derek Koopowitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Glaze<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] NATS</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Bill Glaze</span></div>
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