[NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

Phil Spelt chuenkan at comcast.net
Wed Nov 25 10:43:21 AKST 2009


Sounds totally SPA-eligible to me...it sounds like a great airplane.

At 11:14 AM 11/25/2009, you wrote:
>Gents:
>Just finished a Blue Jay  Dirty Birdy 60 
>kit  with an OS 55x and Macs tuned Muffler- Talk 
>about power  and vertical speed- it’s a hoot ! I 
>made an effort to build it light- tossed some 
>wood, hollowed blocks out- (6lbs. 1 oz., no 
>retracts, pull-pull rudder. Deps style elev.) 
>and it doesn’t need a .heavy .91 4-stroke. 
>I2-13  minutes on an 8 ounce tank . Some of my 
>pattern buds (Ed Alt & Matt K.) have flown it 
>and are  favorably impressed. Needs some more 
>mixing once the weather improves.
>Frank
>
>
>----------
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave
>Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:57 AM
>To: 'General pattern discussion'
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound
>
>“Everyone is free to choose with whom to 
>associate, and while we in SPA are sorry to have 
>lost the people who have chosen not to fly with us, that was/is their choice.”
>*********True enough!!
>
>“I won't go into the many discussions I have had 
>with fellow SPAers about the direction of AMA 
>pattern, as directed by the NSRCA -- but they 
>are frequent, and those of us having them choose not to fly AMA”
>*********I would note that the direction taken 
>by the NSRCA is based on the comments/feedback 
>from the NSRCA membership
.majority 
>wins
.minority is still welcome, but can choose 
>to go play another game (SPA, BPA, vintage, 
>etc)
.it is nice to have the options.
>
>If I had more time, and more of the SPA stuff 
>was happening in my area, I’d love to put 
>together a Dirty Birdy or Deception (some of my 
>first planes)
..and the power plant would have 
>to be modernized to accommodate noise
.but, 
>personally, I could never be happy with such a 
>plane using a 4C
.just doesn’t seem right to 
>me.  But I am happy to see others having fun 
>with the older planes (however much they are being modified) and 4Cs.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dave
>
>
>
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>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Phil Spelt
>Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:37 AM
>To: General pattern discussion
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound
>
>Well, Guys,
>
>I was preparing a response to Ron Van Putte, but 
>it appears this is not the venue for 
>that.  Everyone is free to choose with whom to 
>associate, and while we in SPA are sorry to have 
>lost the people who have chosen not to fly with 
>us, that was/is their choice.  If you check with 
>Jason Shulman, you might find a different perspective.
>
>I won't go into the many discussions I have had 
>with fellow SPAers about the direction of AMA 
>pattern, as directed by the NSRCA -- but they 
>are frequent, and those of us having them choose 
>not to fly AMA pattern - but we don't publicly 
>criticize it, either.  I judged several rounds 
>at an AMA meet last season, and while I really 
>like the turn around part, the judging reinforced my decision to fly SPA, only.
>
>BTW, if anyone is interested in some 2-meter 
>stuff (engines and airframes) you can email me 
>privately...it would be great stuff @ a 
>reasonable price for entry into 2-meter pattern, and up through Advanced.
>
>At 10:23 AM 11/25/2009, you wrote:
>That’s the reason I quite SPA also
 
>4-cycles!!  There is not much challenge flying 
>the old pattern with a overpowered (90 4c) 
>engine.  That was what made it hard!  The 
>scavenge-pot 60’s didn’t really have enough 
>power, so you had to FLY the airplane
. If they 
>are allowing 90 4c engines, why not allow ANY power plant!
>
>Tony Stillman, President
>Radio South, Inc.
>139 Altama Connector, Box 322
>Brunswick, GA  31525
>1-800-962-7802
>www.radiosouthrc.com
>
>----------
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [ 
>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Pete Cosky
>Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:20 AM
>To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound
>
>I'm with you John. When I was into racing 
>anything vintage had to be....well...vintage.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>John Pavlick
>To: <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>General pattern discussion
>Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound
>
>Electrics in SPA? Jeez, that's kind of hard to 
>stomach. Next they're going to allow electronic 
>fuel-injection and anti-lock brakes in Vintage Sports Car Racing. LOL
>
>John Pavlick
>
>--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Jerry Combs 
><<mailto:jcombs1947 at att.net>jcombs1947 at att.net> wrote:
>From: Jerry Combs <<mailto:jcombs1947 at att.net>jcombs1947 at att.net>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound
>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:50 AM
>I don't understand the 13" prop bit either.  On 
>my Axi 4130-20 on 6 cells a 13" prop gives me around 500 watts.
>Jerry
>Scott, What is the reason behind a 13 inch prop limit for electric? There
>isn't any limit on prop sizes for IC engines is there? A flyer with an IC
>engine searches for the best prop size to the particular plane and engine
>combo, it seems that electric flyers should have the same flexibility.
>Dave Burton
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>--> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.
>
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-->There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.

Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc.
        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member, SPA--177
       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
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