[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

Mon Nov 23 12:00:10 AKST 2009

My guess upon introspection was that the white gas I used lo these many years ago, was actuallly gasoline sans additives.  One of the additives missing was, of course, the red dye mixed with automotive gasoline for identificatinn purposes, thus making a clear fluid.
Bill.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gene Maurice 
  To: 'General pattern discussion' 
  Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

  From Wikipedia:

  White gas is a common name for two flammable substances. In its most common modern usage, it is used as a generic name for camp stove and lantern fuel, usually Naphtha.[1]

  White gasoline, also called white gas can also be a name for pure gasoline, without additives. This was commonly used when leaded gas was normal, to prevent fouling in situations where the properties of the tetraethyl lead additive were not required.[2]

  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
  Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:03 PM
  To: General pattern discussion
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

  Remember, (or, really, be informed) that the white gas I used in the mid-1940's came out of a pump at a small gas station near our house.  It came out of the same type pumps that were used to pump automobile gas; in fact, it was in the same row as the rest of the pumps.  It seemed to work perfectly for my purpose of the (then) spark ignition Ohlsson & Rice engines.  And, even then, Coleman fuel was considered by folks to be not white gas,but something entirely different.  As a kid, I was never told the difference, if, even then, the "adults" knew the difference, or even if there was a difference.  I don't know, to this day.

  Bill

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    From: John Ferrell 

    To: General pattern discussion 

    Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:01 PM

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

    I am not sure what you are calling "White Gas". If that means Coleman fuel, there may be a problem...

    In the mid 1970's I had the need to run a large outboard motor on Colman fuel. When mixed with the appropriate oil the fuel worked fine.

    Several years later I had  a prolem trying to run a Coleman catalytic heater on new Coleman fuel. It just would not work. As near as I could determine

    the Coleman fuel had been changed to Naptha. At that point, I found another way to solve my immediate problem and never revisted the Coleman fuel

    question. 

    The point: Better seek recent experience with Coleman fule before counting on it!

    John Ferrell  W8CCW

    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."
    -Barry Goldwater
    "You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."
    -Doug Floyd

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Bill Glaze 

      To: General pattern discussion 

      Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:06 AM

      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

      We used to use NOTHING BUT white gas in our engines--with a mix of  70 wt. oil (also called by some, differential grease) at ratio of 3/1 or 4/1.  I'm talking about ignition Ohlsson .60's and .23's as well as all the other contemporary engines.  Long time ago.

      Bill Glaze

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        From: Bob Richards 

        To: General pattern discussion 

        Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:32 AM

        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

              I remember reading (Clarence Lee, I think) that detonation due to lower octane is not a problem in the smaller engines. Something about flame propogation...  Of course, this is the same person that said for years to use low nitro, low percentage oil in four-strokes, and also not to run them inverted. :-)  Of course, I've known people to use white gas in their ignition engines and never have a problem.

              I've been told NOT to use 100LL fuel. Again, there are people using it seemingly without problems. 

              I've heard so much conflicting information that I don't know what to believe. Unless I can run the engine with some on-board sensors to measure the performance, temps, etc, I think I'll stick with the manufacturer's recommendation.

              --- On Fri, 11/20/09, brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com> wrote:

                From: brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com>
                Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet
                To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
                Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:13 PM

                Some people use it, and it smells good.  However it has an octane rating of somewhere around a 66-69.  This will almost guarantee detonation problems on a pipe.

                On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at att.net> wrote:

                Anyone use white gas?  And does it have the same power as regular gasoline just not all the additives?

                Wayne Galligan

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                  From: rcmaster199 at aol.com 

                  To: patterndude at tx.rr.com ; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 

                  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10 PM

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                  Avgas..... Pleasant smell. A little pricy at 4.95$ per gallon. (VBG)

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