[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

Mon Nov 23 11:41:39 AKST 2009

>From Wikipedia:

White gas is a common name for two flammable substances. In its most common
modern usage, it is used as a generic name for camp stove and lantern fuel,
usually Naphtha <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha> .[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gas#cite_note-0> 

White gasoline, also called white gas can also be a name for pure gasoline
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline> , without additives. This was
commonly used when leaded gas was normal, to prevent fouling in situations
where the properties of the tetraethyl
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyl_lead>  lead additive were not
required.[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gas#cite_note-1> 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:03 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

Remember, (or, really, be informed) that the white gas I used in the
mid-1940's came out of a pump at a small gas station near our house.  It
came out of the same type pumps that were used to pump automobile gas; in
fact, it was in the same row as the rest of the pumps.  It seemed to work
perfectly for my purpose of the (then) spark ignition Ohlsson & Rice
engines.  And, even then, Coleman fuel was considered by folks to be not
white gas,but something entirely different.  As a kid, I was never told the
difference, if, even then, the "adults" knew the difference, or even if
there was a difference.  I don't know, to this day.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John Ferrell <mailto:jferrell13 at triad.rr.com>  

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:01 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

I am not sure what you are calling "White Gas". If that means Coleman fuel,
there may be a problem...

In the mid 1970's I had the need to run a large outboard motor on Colman
fuel. When mixed with the appropriate oil the fuel worked fine.

Several years later I had  a prolem trying to run a Coleman catalytic heater
on new Coleman fuel. It just would not work. As near as I could determine

the Coleman fuel had been changed to Naptha. At that point, I found another
way to solve my immediate problem and never revisted the Coleman fuel

question. 

The point: Better seek recent experience with Coleman fule before counting
on it!

John Ferrell  W8CCW

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of
justice is no virtue."
-Barry Goldwater
"You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."
-Doug Floyd

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bill Glaze <mailto:billglaze at bellsouth.net>  

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

We used to use NOTHING BUT white gas in our engines--with a mix of  70 wt.
oil (also called by some, differential grease) at ratio of 3/1 or 4/1.  I'm
talking about ignition Ohlsson .60's and .23's as well as all the other
contemporary engines.  Long time ago.

Bill Glaze

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bob Richards <mailto:bob at toprudder.com>  

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

I remember reading (Clarence Lee, I think) that detonation due to lower
octane is not a problem in the smaller engines. Something about flame
propogation...  Of course, this is the same person that said for years to
use low nitro, low percentage oil in four-strokes, and also not to run them
inverted. :-)  Of course, I've known people to use white gas in their
ignition engines and never have a problem.

I've been told NOT to use 100LL fuel. Again, there are people using it
seemingly without problems. 

I've heard so much conflicting information that I don't know what to
believe. Unless I can run the engine with some on-board sensors to measure
the performance, temps, etc, I think I'll stick with the manufacturer's
recommendation.

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com> wrote:

From: brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:13 PM

Some people use it, and it smells good.  However it has an octane rating of
somewhere around a 66-69.  This will almost guarantee detonation problems on
a pipe.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at att.net
<http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wgalligan@att.net> > wrote:

Anyone use white gas?  And does it have the same power as regular gasoline
just not all the additives?

Wayne Galligan

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From: rcmaster199 at aol.com
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To: patterndude at tx.rr.com
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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10 PM

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Avgas..... Pleasant smell. A little pricy at 4.95$ per gallon. (VBG)

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