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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From Wikipedia:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
background:#F8FCFF'><b><span lang=EN>White gas</span></b><span lang=EN> is a
common name for two flammable substances. In its most common modern usage, it
is used as a generic name for camp stove and lantern fuel, usually <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha" title=Naphtha>Naphtha</a>.<sup><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gas#cite_note-0">[1]</a></sup><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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background:#F8FCFF'><b><span lang=EN>White gasoline</span></b><span lang=EN>,
also called <b>white gas</b> can also be a name for pure <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline" title=Gasoline>gasoline</a>,
without additives. This was commonly used when leaded gas was normal, to
prevent fouling in situations where the properties of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyl_lead" title="Tetraethyl lead">tetraethyl
lead</a> additive were not required.<sup><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gas#cite_note-1">[2]</a></sup><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill
Glaze<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2009 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Remember,
(or, really, be informed) that the white gas I used in the mid-1940's came out
of a pump at a small gas station near our house. It came out of the same
type pumps that were used to pump automobile gas; in fact, it was in the same
row as the rest of the pumps. It seemed to work perfectly for my purpose
of the (then) spark ignition Ohlsson & Rice engines. And, even then,
Coleman fuel was considered by folks to be not white gas,but something entirely
different. As a kid, I was never told the difference, if, even then, the
"adults" knew the difference, or even if there was a
difference. I don't know, to this day.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:jferrell13@triad.rr.com"
title="jferrell13@triad.rr.com">John Ferrell</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Sunday, November 22,
2009 11:01 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am not sure what you are calling "White Gas". If that means Coleman
fuel, there may be a problem...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In
the mid 1970's I had the need to run a large outboard motor on Colman fuel.
When mixed with the appropriate oil the fuel worked fine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Several
years later I had a prolem trying to run a Coleman catalytic heater on
new Coleman fuel. It just would not work. As near as I could determine</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>the
Coleman fuel had been changed to Naptha. At that point, I found another way to
solve my immediate problem and never revisted the Coleman fuel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>question.
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
point: Better seek recent experience with Coleman fule before counting on it!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>John Ferrell W8CCW<br>
<br>
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of
justice is no virtue."<br>
-Barry Goldwater<br>
"You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."<br>
-Doug Floyd<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:billglaze@bellsouth.net"
title="billglaze@bellsouth.net">Bill Glaze</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, November
21, 2009 10:06 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We used to use NOTHING BUT white gas in our engines--with a
mix of 70 wt. oil (also called by some, differential grease) at ratio of
3/1 or 4/1. I'm talking about ignition Ohlsson .60's and .23's as well as
all the other contemporary engines. Long time ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bill Glaze<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com"
title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Saturday, November
21, 2009 8:32 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I remember reading (Clarence Lee, I think) that detonation
due to lower octane is not a problem in the smaller engines. Something about
flame propogation... Of course, this is the same person that said for
years to use low nitro, low percentage oil in four-strokes, and also not to
run them inverted. :-) Of course, I've known people to use white gas in
their ignition engines and never have a problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I've been told NOT to use 100LL fuel. Again, there are
people using it seemingly without problems. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I've heard so much conflicting information that I don't
know what to believe. Unless I can run the engine with some on-board sensors
to measure the performance, temps, etc, I think I'll stick with the
manufacturer's recommendation.<br>
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--- On <b>Fri, 11/20/09, brett terry <i><brett.terry@gmail.com></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: brett terry <brett.terry@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet<br>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:13 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Some people use it, and it
smells good. However it has an octane rating of somewhere around a
66-69. This will almost guarantee detonation problems on a pipe.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Galligan <<a
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wgalligan@att.net"
target="_blank">wgalligan@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Anyone
use white gas? And does it have the same power as regular gasoline just
not all the additives?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Wayne Galligan<o:p></o:p></p>
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href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rcmaster199@aol.com"
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=patterndude@tx.rr.com"
target="_blank" title="patterndude@tx.rr.com">patterndude@tx.rr.com</a> ; <a
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, November
16, 2009 6:10 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Avgas..... Pleasant smell. A
little pricy at 4.95$ per gallon. (VBG)<br>
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