[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

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Hey there's a maneuver we hadn't heard anything about in at least 5 
years.

But I still prefer the Triple Wooppee myself

MattK

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

I have heard that several pilots have tried to demonstrate the Double
Weedon, but you really must go up to the Michigan/Ohio area to see it
done by the Master.

Ron

On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:13 AM, billglaze wrote:

> Roger that, Bob; along the same lines, I still haven't been
> privileged enough to witness a Double Weedon; I understand and
> agree my aeronautical schooling has been sadly
> lacking........................ Bill Glaze
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Kane
> To: General pattern discussion
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>
> <snip>  . . . . .And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical
> impossibility to enter and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude.
> I think that needs correcting.
>
> I've come close by performing an ugly 1/2  barrel roll
> first . . . . . ;)
>
> Bob Kane
> getterflash at yahoo.com
>
>
> From: George W.Kennie <geobet4 at verizon.net>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:15:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>
>
> Bill,
>
> This is probably inaccurate, but I notice that noone else has
> responded to your inquiry so just to prove that I have not learned
> my lesson, here goes.
>
> In the landing descriptor it states, " there is no down grade if
> the model rolls to a stop within 15 meters".   I think the crucial
> word is STOP !   What does this mean to proper execution?   How
> many times have you seen a plane touch down perfectly within one
> meter of the center line and then proceed to roll perfectly
> straight down the center of the runway without a single bounce for
> a distance of 150 feet?  A little hot maybe, but to most observers,
> a beautiful landing. In light of the "Stop within 15 meters"
> stipulation, it would appear that this becomes a downgradeable
> offence. Sounds, to me, like maybe it's the pilot's responsibility
> to also control the approach airspeed so that touchdown occurs just
> above stall speed controlling the rollout distance, but maybe
> somebody will correct me on this. I think this would also cover
> stuff like flipovers after the 15 meter rollout.
>
> If the pilot performs a landing and meets all the above
> requirements and then encounters an obstacle, whether that be a
> hole or a hummock or whatever, I would deem the execution faultless
> and rule "beyond the pilot's control" and score a 10.  Flipovers
> usually occur as a result of either the plane being outside the
> landing zone or equipment malfunction ( stuck wheel e.t.c.) and
> would require discretionary judgement on the part of the scorer.
>
> And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical impossibility to enter
> and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude. I think that needs
> correcting.
>
> Of course, all this is my opinionated interpretation of matters and
> should be so received.
>
> G.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: billglaze
> To: nsrca- discussion
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:30 PM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>
> At the risk of starting another downwind turn discussion:
>
> I've been reading over the excellent PowerPoint presentation, and
> I'd like a question answered that I've had for a long time.
> On landing, if the plane overturns AT ANY TIME is it an automatic
> zero?  I've felt for a long time that it should be, yet I've had
> people tell me "after 50 ft. landing roll, we've completely lost
> interest in the airplane."  It can roll anywhere, do anything, and
> it doesn't affect the score, is their idea.
> Also, if it TOUCHES DOWN in the landing zone, and then rolls
> immediately into what awaits, (in some cases, a small canyon) is
> the landing zeroed?  I've been called for doing so once.
> Secondly, in reading the presentation for Intermediate, it states
> for the Split S:  A downgrade if the entry and exit are not at the
> same altitude.  Seems to me to be an error that slipped by, but
> I've been wrong before. (Honest; yes, it's happened!)<G>  I've been
> known to incorrectly read/interpret also.  Standing by for the more
> knowledgeable brains on the list!
> thanks
> Bill Glaze
> NSRCA 2388
>
>
>
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