[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

Mon Mar 2 10:02:19 AKST 2009

There's always my favorite:  The Immelflounder!  Bill
BTW:  Are you going to be able to make it to any of our stuff here in D2? 
Myrtle Beach?  The judging clinic?  Anything that you know of?
Bill Glaze
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> Hey there's a maneuver we hadn't heard anything about in at least 5 years.
>
> But I still prefer the Triple Wooppee myself
>
> MattK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:35 pm
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> I have heard that several pilots have tried to demonstrate the Double
> Weedon, but you really must go up to the Michigan/Ohio area to see it
> done by the Master.
>
> Ron
>
> On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:13 AM, billglaze wrote:
>
>> Roger that, Bob; along the same lines, I still haven't been
>> privileged enough to witness a Double Weedon; I understand and
>> agree my aeronautical schooling has been sadly
>> lacking........................ Bill Glaze
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bob Kane
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>>
>> <snip>  . . . . .And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical
>> impossibility to enter and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude.
>> I think that needs correcting.
>>
>> I've come close by performing an ugly 1/2  barrel roll
>> first . . . . . ;)
>>
>> Bob Kane
>> getterflash at yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> From: George W.Kennie <geobet4 at verizon.net>
>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:15:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> This is probably inaccurate, but I notice that noone else has
>> responded to your inquiry so just to prove that I have not learned
>> my lesson, here goes.
>>
>> In the landing descriptor it states, " there is no down grade if
>> the model rolls to a stop within 15 meters".   I think the crucial
>> word is STOP !   What does this mean to proper execution?   How
>> many times have you seen a plane touch down perfectly within one
>> meter of the center line and then proceed to roll perfectly
>> straight down the center of the runway without a single bounce for
>> a distance of 150 feet?  A little hot maybe, but to most observers,
>> a beautiful landing. In light of the "Stop within 15 meters"
>> stipulation, it would appear that this becomes a downgradeable
>> offence. Sounds, to me, like maybe it's the pilot's responsibility
>> to also control the approach airspeed so that touchdown occurs just
>> above stall speed controlling the rollout distance, but maybe
>> somebody will correct me on this. I think this would also cover
>> stuff like flipovers after the 15 meter rollout.
>>
>> If the pilot performs a landing and meets all the above
>> requirements and then encounters an obstacle, whether that be a
>> hole or a hummock or whatever, I would deem the execution faultless
>> and rule "beyond the pilot's control" and score a 10.  Flipovers
>> usually occur as a result of either the plane being outside the
>> landing zone or equipment malfunction ( stuck wheel e.t.c.) and
>> would require discretionary judgement on the part of the scorer.
>>
>> And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical impossibility to enter
>> and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude. I think that needs
>> correcting.
>>
>> Of course, all this is my opinionated interpretation of matters and
>> should be so received.
>>
>> G.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: billglaze
>> To: nsrca- discussion
>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:30 PM
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions
>>
>> At the risk of starting another downwind turn discussion:
>>
>> I've been reading over the excellent PowerPoint presentation, and
>> I'd like a question answered that I've had for a long time.
>> On landing, if the plane overturns AT ANY TIME is it an automatic
>> zero?  I've felt for a long time that it should be, yet I've had
>> people tell me "after 50 ft. landing roll, we've completely lost
>> interest in the airplane."  It can roll anywhere, do anything, and
>> it doesn't affect the score, is their idea.
>> Also, if it TOUCHES DOWN in the landing zone, and then rolls
>> immediately into what awaits, (in some cases, a small canyon) is
>> the landing zeroed?  I've been called for doing so once.
>> Secondly, in reading the presentation for Intermediate, it states
>> for the Split S:  A downgrade if the entry and exit are not at the
>> same altitude.  Seems to me to be an error that slipped by, but
>> I've been wrong before. (Honest; yes, it's happened!)<G>  I've been
>> known to incorrectly read/interpret also.  Standing by for the more
>> knowledgeable brains on the list!
>> thanks
>> Bill Glaze
>> NSRCA 2388
>>
>>
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