[NSRCA-discussion] AMA in Muncie; Relocation; Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....

Fri Jul 31 11:42:18 AKDT 2009

Mark:
You are correct on all points.  It just comes down to what the membership
wants in a NATS and what can be done.  However, I would bring up that at the
World Champs, many people attend just to renew friendships.  I realize that
this is only in the USA every 10 years or so, but still, this does happen
especially with the Europeans.  Look at how many attended the TOC as
spectators just to watch the best?  Could a NATS turn into that?  Perhaps.

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South, Inc.

139 Altama Connector, Box 322

Brunswick, GA  31525

1-800-962-7802

www.radiosouthrc.com

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:33 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA in Muncie;
Relocation;Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....

There are several other problems as I see it.  

It would significantly increase the time required to participate at that
level.  Currently, many of us really burn the fuel a few weeks prior to the
nats. Yes, we fly all season, but prep for the nationals is intense for
those trying to win their class.  Add regional's that you have to win and
suddenly your prepping multiple times.  

Another BIG problem, is that for MANY.the Nats is a social event.  I realize
that's not it's primary role, but it's a role that I think is critically
important to our "sport".  More than half.maybe more than 75% of the
attendees go to participate.  Not to win.  They go to spend a week immersed
in model airplanes and to see how they stack up.  Regionals would just be
another local contest without much hoopla, and the Nats would devolve to a
small group of people who have the time.not necessarily the talent to
participate at all the events.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:28 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA in Muncie; Relocation;
Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....

That was one of the ideas that was brought to the table.  The NATS is an
open event, anyone can participate.  It is time to think outside the box a
little.  What if ALL events were changed so that only Nationals Qualifiers
are allowed to compete at the NATS?  Then you would limit the participants
and would really get the best of the best competing for a National
Championship.  I would argue that the term "National Champion" would take on
new meaning!  

The problem is that the event is run by volunteers and that number would
virtually disappear should this happen.  Everyone attending would be working
full time to win.  This will create a whole new set of problems.  

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South, Inc.

139 Altama Connector, Box 322

Brunswick, GA  31525

1-800-962-7802

www.radiosouthrc.com

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
McLalin
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:13 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] AMA in Muncie;
Relocation;Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....

Perhaps there can be regional championships that combine multiple areas and
the top from each region advance to AMA site in Muncie.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Bill Pritchett <billpritch at yahoo.com>
wrote:

I live in Muncie and can tell you that the AMA site is not our local flying
site.  In fact, some local flyers foolishly thought it would be when the AMA
came to town and as a result, our local club doesn't really exist any more.
Most of the guys have gone off on their own in groups of 10 or 12 and have,
over the years, come to realize that the AMA site is not going to work for a
local flying site due to the activity level - which is a great thing!!  My
guess would be that most of the sport flyers clamoring to fly there are
traveling though town, want to see the site, and become frustrated over the
competition schedule that takes them out of an hour of sport flying....
There is a solution...  Let the membership know that they can fly on site #
(....???...) anytime they want to on DSS.  Even in the beginning, I didn't
fly out there (before DSS) because there was always a parking lot full of
transmitters.....
As for finals in Advanced and Intermediate - just do it.  We like to refer
to ourselves on site 4 as "the children".....  Yes, it's a great excuse to
misbehave (and we do), but really, it should all be the same.
Relocation?  - just do it.  For me, it's no easy thing to participate while
at home.  It's much easier to leave the house/family/kids for a few days
than try to balance it all during the week of the Nats.  I'll gladly go
whereever......trust me, it's a lot easier to be away!!
There are some wonderful guys that are AMA staffers and of course Tony is an
invaluable assett to NSRCA as a pattern guy that's on the Exec Council.
While it's easy to piss and moan about some details regarding our specific
event and passion, don't forget the fight that needs to be fought with the
FAA and the very real threat that is posed to our hobby in general.  It's
going to be the AMA, not us, that fights that fight and we need to support
them 10000%.
Pritch

Bill Pritchett
Souled Out Entertainment
www.souledoutentertainment.biz <http://www.souledoutentertainment.biz/> 
765-744-9322

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From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:30:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

I do like the idea of moving the NATS around, even if it is just Pattern....

Tony Stillman, President
Radio South, Inc.
139 Altama Connector, Box 322
Brunswick, GA  31525
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com <http://www.radiosouthrc.com/> 

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:16 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

Geographic Center, yes.  However, when United Airlines was looking to 
establish a pilot domicile in the Eastern part of the Midwest, (however that

translates) they found that 70% of the U.S. population is within a 500 mile 
radius of Cleveland.  So, Cleveland it was.  And for many years.  Bill Glaze
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill's Email" <wemodels at cox.net>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

> One thing that has resulted from basing the NATS in Muncie is that 
> participation from pilots out west has fallen off. Pattern is one 
> exception, but in many other disciplines the NATS is really not much more 
> than a big contest held in Indiana.
>
> AMA District X has the largest number of members, but among the lowest in 
> NATS participation over all the areas. Moving the NATS around is one way 
> to allow more people to participate.
>
> My suggestion would be one year in Muncie the next year out west, then 
> back to Muncie. I wonder how many of those that came from 500 miles or 
> less would make the 2,100 mile trek it takes for us Left Coasters to get 
> to Muncie.
>
> Better yet, hold the NATS in Lebanon, Kansas, the closest city to the 
> geographic center of the US!!!
>
>
>
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