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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark:<br>
You are correct on all points. It just comes down to what the membership
wants in a NATS and what can be done. However, I would bring up that at
the World Champs, many people attend just to renew friendships. I realize
that this is only in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>
every 10 years or so, but still, this does happen especially with the Europeans.
Look at how many attended the TOC as spectators just to watch the best?
Could a NATS turn into that? Perhaps…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tony Stillman, President</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Radio South, Inc.</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Atwood, Mark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 3:33
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
AMA in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>;
Relocation;Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There are several
other problems as I see it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It would
significantly increase the time required to participate at that level.
Currently, many of us really burn the fuel a few weeks prior to the nats. Yes,
we fly all season, but prep for the nationals is intense for those trying to
win their class. Add regional’s that you have to win and suddenly
your prepping multiple times. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Another BIG problem,
is that for MANY…the Nats is a social event. I realize that’s
not it’s primary role, but it’s a role that I think is critically
important to our “sport”. More than half…maybe more
than 75% of the attendees go to participate. Not to win. They go to
spend a week immersed in model airplanes and to see how they stack up.
Regionals would just be another local contest without much hoopla, and the Nats
would devolve to a small group of people who have the time…not
necessarily the talent to participate at all the events.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tony<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 3:28
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
AMA in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>;
Relocation; Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That was one of the ideas that was brought
to the table… The NATS is an open event, anyone can
participate. It is time to think outside the box a little. What if
ALL events were changed so that only Nationals Qualifiers are allowed to
compete at the NATS? Then you would limit the participants and would
really get the best of the best competing for a National Championship. I
would argue that the term “National Champion” would take on new
meaning! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The problem is that the event is run by
volunteers and that number would virtually disappear should this happen.
Everyone attending would be working full time to win. This will create a
whole new set of problems. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tony Stillman, President</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Radio South, Inc.</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>139 Altama Connector, <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street
w:st="on">Box</st1:Street> 322</st1:address></span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Brunswick</span></font></st1:City><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">GA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">31525</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1-800-962-7802</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Daniel McLalin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 3:13
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
AMA in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>;
Relocation;Advanced/Intermediate Finals; Etc.....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Perhaps there can be
regional championships that combine multiple areas and the top from each region
advance to AMA site in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Bill Pritchett <<a
href="mailto:billpritch@yahoo.com">billpritch@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I live in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>
and can tell you that the AMA site is <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>not our
local flying site.</span></b> In fact, some local flyers foolishly
thought it would be when the AMA came to town and as a result, our local club
doesn't really exist any more. Most of the guys have gone off on their
own in groups of 10 or 12 and have, over the years, come to realize that the
AMA site is not going to work for a local flying site due to the activity level
- which is a great thing!! My guess would be that most of the sport
flyers clamoring to fly there are traveling though town, want to see the site,
and become frustrated over the competition schedule that takes them out of an
hour of sport flying.... There is a solution... Let the
membership know that they can fly on site # (....???...) anytime they want to
on DSS. Even in the beginning, I didn't fly out there (before DSS)
because there was always a parking lot full of transmitters.....<br>
As for finals in Advanced and Intermediate - just do it. We like to refer
to ourselves on site 4 as "the children"..... Yes, it's a great
excuse to misbehave (and we do), but really, it should all be the same.<br>
Relocation? - just do it. For me, it's no easy thing to participate
while at home. It's much easier to leave the house/family/kids for a few
days than try to balance it all during the week of the Nats. I'll gladly
go whereever......trust me, it's a lot easier to be away!!<br>
There are some wonderful guys that are AMA staffers and of course Tony is an
invaluable assett to NSRCA as a pattern guy that's on the Exec Council.
While it's easy to piss and moan about some details regarding our specific
event and passion, don't forget the fight that needs to be fought with the FAA
and the very real threat that is posed to our hobby in general. It's
going to be the AMA, not us, that fights that fight and we need to support them
10000%.<br>
Pritch<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bill
Pritchett<br>
Souled Out Entertainment<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a href="http://www.souledoutentertainment.biz/"
target="_blank">www.souledoutentertainment.biz</a></span></font><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'><br>
</span></font><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>765-744-9322</span></font></b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Tony <<a
href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com" target="_blank">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009
1:30:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><br>
I do like the idea of moving the NATS around, even if it is just Pattern....<br>
<br>
<br>
Tony Stillman, President<br>
Radio South, Inc.<br>
139 Altama Connector, <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Box</st1:Street>
322</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Brunswick</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">GA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">31525</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
1-800-962-7802<br>
<a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" target="_blank">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Bill
Glaze<br>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:16 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
<br>
Geographic Center, yes. However, when United Airlines was looking to <br>
establish a pilot domicile in the Eastern part of the <st1:place w:st="on">Midwest</st1:place>,
(however that<br>
<br>
translates) they found that 70% of the <st1:country-region w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region>
population is within a 500 mile <br>
radius of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cleveland</st1:place></st1:City>.
So, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cleveland</st1:place></st1:City>
it was. And for many years. Bill Glaze<br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: "Bill's Email" <<a href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net"
target="_blank">wemodels@cox.net</a>><br>
To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>"
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:44 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
<br>
<br>
> One thing that has resulted from basing the NATS in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City> is that <br>
> participation from pilots out west has fallen off. Pattern is one <br>
> exception, but in many other disciplines the NATS is really not much more <br>
> than a big contest held in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Indiana</st1:place></st1:State>.<br>
><br>
> AMA District X has the largest number of members, but among the lowest in <br>
> NATS participation over all the areas. Moving the NATS around is one way <br>
> to allow more people to participate.<br>
><br>
> My suggestion would be one year in <st1:City w:st="on">Muncie</st1:City>
the next year out west, then <br>
> back to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>.
I wonder how many of those that came from 500 miles or <br>
> less would make the 2,100 mile trek it takes for us Left Coasters to get <br>
> to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
><br>
> Better yet, hold the NATS in <st1:City w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Kansas</st1:State>, the closest city to the <br>
> geographic center of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>!!!<br>
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