[NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle

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 Global economy and Global marketplace have pretty much come of age.



The reason I prefer Toyotas is because of their execution....attention to detail during manufacturing. Engineering is very good at pretty much all top auto makers. Execution and supply chain quality control are the main areas of difference FWIW2U



MattK



 






-----Original Message-----

From: mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>

To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2009 12:01 pm

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle



  
     OK so how do we know that buying Fords and GM's helps the US economy anymore   than a Honda, Nissan or a Toyota really? It's more complicated than just   associating a Name brand to a particular country anymore.   Probably best to look at that american content list and see how it benefits the   US workers the best.    Thanks Jeff that;s good info. Mike    --- On Sat, 8/15/09, jeffghughes at comcast.net <jeffghughes at comcast.net> wrote:    > From: jeffghughes at comcast.net <jeffghughes at comcast.net>  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle  > To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 10:12 AM  > #yiv1168904956 p  > {margin:0;}An  > automotive assembly plant does not add much content to a  > car, all the money is in the components and all the car  > manufacturers chase the components to the lowest cost  > producer, which right now is places like china, india and  &g
 t; brazil. We get our blocks from brazil, cranks from India and  > push rods and valves?from China. I started at GM in  > '73 and watched them go from the southern strategy where  > they built components down south (non union) and then things  > got cheaper in Mexico so we shut down plants in SC to move  > to mexico. THen it became even more global with Brazil  > getting into the act, then finally india and china. I  > currently work for a diesel engine mfg and we get 19Liter  > blocks from brazil and 30L blocks from Germany to be  > machined here inthe US. THe Japanese car  > companies?brought their supply base over? here  > (NTN, Aisen, etc) when they set up assembly plants, so it  > wouldn't surprise me that they have cars with more US  > content than GM or Ford.   >   > ----- Original Message -----  > From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>  > To: "General pattern discussion"  > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsr
 ca.org>  > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:25:19 AM GMT -05


:00  > US/Canada Eastern  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle  >   >   >   >   >   >   >   > There  > was an article published recently concerning the top 10  > USA  > ?content automobiles. Toyota was  > three of them as I recall.  > ?  >   > Jay Marshall  >   > -----Original  > Message-----  > From:  > nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org  > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob  > Richards  > Sent: Friday,  > August 14,  > 2009  > 8:35  > PM  > To:  > General pattern  > discussion  > Subject: Re:  > [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle  > ?  >   >   >   >   >   > My wife and I bought  > a Honda Element a few years ago (2004) and I remember  > looking at the information about where it was built. It was  > something like 65% components from North America. The CRV,  > which had the same drive train and engin
 e, was 65% Asia or  > Japan (don't remember).  >   > ?  >   > I did some EMC  > testing for a manufacturer that made components for Ford.  > Some of their stuff was made here, some in China, some in  > Europe. They design a component that may be used in several,  > if not all, models, and might be made anywhere in the  > world.  >   > ?  >   > It wasn't too  > long ago that the ONLY manufacturer that could legally say  > their cars were 100% made in the USA was Saturn, but  > I'll bet that has changed, too.  >   > ?  >   > Bob  > R.  >   >   >   > --- On Fri, 8/14/09,  > mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>  > wrote:  >   > ?  >   > Phil don't you think that the  > nations attached to most cars is kind of muddled? I mean  > Honda, Nissan and Toyota make a lot of cars here in the US  > employing a lot of Americans. Ford makes a lot of their cars  > in Mexico and Cana
 da and South America. Stock holders own  > car company's up until


 recently with the Chrysler/ GM  > debacle. Stock holders from Asia own stock in American  > companies and American's own stock in Toyota and Honda.  > Chrysler is now owned by Fiat an Italian company. Mazda is  > 40% owned by Ford and the list goes on and on. I'm not  > usre what makes sense anymore.  > Mike  > ?  > _______________________________________________  > NSRCA-discussion mailing list  > NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion  > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----  >   > _______________________________________________  > NSRCA-discussion mailing list  > NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion              _______________________________________________  NSRCA-discussion mailing list  NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion    
   

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