[NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question

[Steven Maxwell]

 Actually I did a wrong maneuver at a contest the district championships I only seen my scores after they had been put in the computer I told the CD that it should have been a zero and the next 2 maneuver also should have been zero, till I corrected my position.
 Steve Maxwell


--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Dennis Cone <patternpilot at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Dennis Cone <patternpilot at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:27 PM
> I once was at a contest flying Masters in which I found
> myself right side up
> when I should have been inverted. We were flying into the
> sun so I pulled
> vertical right into the suns path, did the required
> maneuver and when I
> reached the sun I rolled and pushed out of the maneuver. I
> was then in the
> right position for the next maneuver. A round later I was
> calling for Frank
> Capone and he did the same thing. So I whispered to him to
> pull into the sun
> and roll right when he could not see it. Neither one of us
> got caught. Was
> it cheating? Perhaps, but I like to call it creative
> flying. It was not
> planned, so really not cheating. I'm sure everyone has
> done a maneuver
> incorrectly and was not caught by the judges. Did you tell
> them to zero it?
> Probably not. 
> 
> Dennis 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf
> Of Ron Van Putte
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:13 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
> 
> It's only cheating if you get caught.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:
> 
> > Ron, that is cheating, you should immediately point
> out to the  
> > judges that you lead the snap in order to preserve the
> geometry of  
> > the maneuver.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Ronald Van Putte"
> <vanputte at cox.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:34 PM
> > To: "General pattern discussion"
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche
> question
> >
> >> What you can try is easing some yaw in by putting
> in a bit of  
> >> left  rudder just before entering the snap (the
> judges probably  
> >> won't even  notice).
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Keith Black wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm having trouble with the Masters
> Avalanche and wanted to see  
> >>> if anyone had any suggestions or was
> experiencing the same problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Entering the maneuver left to right then
> pushing the half loop  
> >>> to  the snap, If I attempt a positive snap to
> the right (which  
> >>> rotates  the plane away from the flight line)
> the nose comes  
> >>> around nicely  to complete the arch of the
> loop, but ends  
> >>> pointing about 20  degrees away from the
> flight line. If I stay  
> >>> on the rudder after  the snap I can
> immediately put the plane  
> >>> back in line, but it's  quite ugly and
> obvious rather than  
> >>> smoothly exiting the snap  parallel to the
> flight line. I've  
> >>> tried using less rudder, but have  not been
> able to get that to  
> >>> work any better.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've also tried an outside snap but to me
> this looks terrible  
> >>> and  the nose is elevated on exit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The plane is a Beryll.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Keith Black
> >>>
> >>>
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