[NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question

[dkrev at shaw.ca]

I will be watch you and Frank very closely now :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Cone <patternpilot at verizon.net>

Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:27:37 
To: 'General pattern discussion'<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question


I once was at a contest flying Masters in which I found myself right side up
when I should have been inverted. We were flying into the sun so I pulled
vertical right into the suns path, did the required maneuver and when I
reached the sun I rolled and pushed out of the maneuver. I was then in the
right position for the next maneuver. A round later I was calling for Frank
Capone and he did the same thing. So I whispered to him to pull into the sun
and roll right when he could not see it. Neither one of us got caught. Was
it cheating? Perhaps, but I like to call it creative flying. It was not
planned, so really not cheating. I'm sure everyone has done a maneuver
incorrectly and was not caught by the judges. Did you tell them to zero it?
Probably not. 

Dennis 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:13 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question

It's only cheating if you get caught.

Ron

On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:

> Ron, that is cheating, you should immediately point out to the  
> judges that you lead the snap in order to preserve the geometry of  
> the maneuver.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ronald Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:34 PM
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
>
>> What you can try is easing some yaw in by putting in a bit of  
>> left  rudder just before entering the snap (the judges probably  
>> won't even  notice).
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Keith Black wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having trouble with the Masters Avalanche and wanted to see  
>>> if anyone had any suggestions or was experiencing the same problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Entering the maneuver left to right then pushing the half loop  
>>> to  the snap, If I attempt a positive snap to the right (which  
>>> rotates  the plane away from the flight line) the nose comes  
>>> around nicely  to complete the arch of the loop, but ends  
>>> pointing about 20  degrees away from the flight line. If I stay  
>>> on the rudder after  the snap I can immediately put the plane  
>>> back in line, but it's  quite ugly and obvious rather than  
>>> smoothly exiting the snap  parallel to the flight line. I've  
>>> tried using less rudder, but have  not been able to get that to  
>>> work any better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also tried an outside snap but to me this looks terrible  
>>> and  the nose is elevated on exit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The plane is a Beryll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Keith Black
>>>
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