[NSRCA-discussion] For Electric eyes only.. lol

[John Ferrell]

I work with the local volunteer fire department. This is a Hazmat situation. 
First you must isolate it, then contain it. Then you must assure the safety of responders and bystanders. Only then can you address the needs of the victims. It is sometimes a hard decision but it makes no sense to risk the lives of the responding emergency personnel. 

Until you know what you are doing it is probably best for all that you simply isolate/contain the incident.

John Ferrell  W8CCW

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: krishlan fitzsimmons 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] For Electric eyes only.. lol


        Well said and excellent point Bob!! 
        If the throttle were to stick open, I guess one could turn the key off like in a gas powered vehicle. But what if that failed? How do you disarm it unless the thought was put into it ahead of time?

        I would assume that they would have already thought of running the main lines down the center of the car. I seriously doubt they would run them through the door posts, or roof of the car. 
        Another thing is safety of the batteries in an accident. Could they put the batteries in a fire proof area? Oxygen free perhaps? Heck, I'm sure they could figure a way to make them survive a crash. Look at the Flight Data Recorders in planes. They usually survive. 
        Of course, anything can happen. Batteries are dangerous, no doubt. But so is a full tank of gas. 


        Chris 





        --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com> wrote:


          From: Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com>
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] For Electric eyes only.. lol
          To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
          Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:57 AM


                It is human nature for one to fear what one does not understand. This is new stuff. There are lots of horror stories. As soon as there is some understanding of what is involved, and perhaps some standards or conventions about cable placement (aka "fuel lines") battery placement (aka "fuel tank") then I don't think there will be any more fear than cutting into a conventional vehicle. Everyone knows there are not fuel lines running in the door posts - safe to cut there, etc. (Unless, of course, you happen upon one of Junior Johnson's old race cars - there might be some nitrous oxide inside the roll cage)  ;-)

                I think the bigger fear should be how to disarm an electric vehicle. Same as with our airplanes, just because the prop is not turning does not mean it isn't armed!

                Bob R.


                --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jay Marshall <lightfoot at sc.rr.com> wrote:




                  What about fuel lines? Or a hydrogen tank?



                  Jay Marshall 
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                  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Hoard


                   

                  I was talking to a fireman a few days ago. . . . they are very nervous about electric / hybrid cars from a safety point of view.  

                  Would you want to be cutting into a car with the Jaws of Life knowing that somewhere in the twisted wreckage is a 400S-20P Thunder Power LiPo??  Even if the batts are A123's, you still have some very large current carrying wires flopping around somewhere.

                  But hey, we're in a planetary emergency, right?? 


               


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