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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I work with the local volunteer fire department.
This is a Hazmat situation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First you must isolate it, then contain it. Then
you must assure the safety of responders and bystanders. Only then can you
address the needs of the victims. It is sometimes a hard decision but it makes
no sense to risk the lives of the responding emergency personnel. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Until you know what you are doing it is probably
best for all that you simply isolate/contain the incident.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Ferrell W8CCW</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is
for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR>...."The problem with socialism
is that you eventually run out of other people's money." <BR>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] For
Electric eyes only.. lol</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Well said and excellent point Bob!! <BR>If the throttle
were to stick open, I guess one could turn the key off like in a gas
powered vehicle. But what if that failed? How do you disarm it unless
the thought was put into it ahead of time?<BR><BR>I would assume that
they would have already thought of running the main lines down the
center of the car. I seriously doubt they would run them through the
door posts, or roof of the car. <BR>Another thing is safety of the
batteries in an accident. Could they put the batteries in a fire proof
area? Oxygen free perhaps? Heck, I'm sure they could figure a way to
make them survive a crash. Look at the Flight Data Recorders in planes.
They usually survive. <BR>Of course, anything can happen. Batteries are
dangerous, no doubt. But so is a full tank of gas. <BR><BR>
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<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 3/31/09, Bob Richards
<I><bob@toprudder.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Bob Richards <bob@toprudder.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] For Electric eyes only.. lol<BR>To: "General
pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date:
Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:57 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>It is human nature for one to fear what one does not
understand. This is new stuff. There are lots of horror stories.
As soon as there is some understanding of what is involved, and
perhaps some standards or conventions about cable placement (aka
"fuel lines") battery placement (aka "fuel tank") then I don't
think there will be any more fear than cutting into a
conventional vehicle. Everyone knows there are not fuel lines
running in the door posts - safe to cut there, etc. (Unless, of
course, you happen upon one of Junior Johnson's old race cars -
there might be some nitrous oxide inside the roll cage)
;-)</DIV>
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<DIV>I think the bigger fear should be how to disarm an electric
vehicle. Same as with our airplanes, just because the prop is
not turning does not mean it isn't armed!</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/30/09, Jay Marshall
<I><lightfoot@sc.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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about fuel lines? Or a hydrogen tank?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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was talking to a fireman a few days ago. . . . they are very
nervous about electric / hybrid cars from a safety point of
view. <BR><BR>Would you want to be cutting into a car
with the Jaws of Life knowing that somewhere in the twisted
wreckage is a 400S-20P Thunder Power LiPo?? Even if the
batts are A123's, you still have some very large current
carrying wires flopping around somewhere.<BR><BR>But hey,
we're in a planetary emergency, right??</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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