[NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

[JShulman]

Try leading with the elevator first for '9.5's', or like my '9' snaps, just
go to the corners at the same time.

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Wilson
  Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 PM
  To: aabdu at sbcglobal.net; General pattern discussion
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls


  Ah..ha, just as I suspected.  The conversation got out of hand, but sure
is enjoyable reading.
  Obviously, my snap roll technique was flawed and I can't wait for flying
tonight so I can work on the improvements.

  Thanks guys
  bw


  On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Anthony Abdullah <aabdu at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

          I like that idea!! The rudder could even be mixed to low throttle
so each half moves in opposite directions for downline braking, or would
that just cause the plane to spin, which could also be cool.

          --- On Tue, 9/23/08, rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
wrote:

            From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>

            Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

            To: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com,
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
            Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 11:30 AM



Woa Ed....A one piece rudder wouldn't move much at all so how could it
scrape the bench....who are you trying to chide??

That gives me an idea....maybe we should build elevators as 1 piece and
rudders as 2 piece. Split rudders will eliminate any belly or canopy
pitching. If each half was driven with a separate servo on separate
channels, they might be programmed to move differentially and eliminate
roll couple also. QED!!

Just in case you forgot to trim your triangle, this is a simpler
shearing of the hair

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 1:46 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls

Did you put the elevator upside down Ed? You have to make sure you put
the non scraping side down..



Chris

--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Ed Alt &lt;ed_alt at hotmail.com&gt; wrote:
From: Ed Alt &lt;ed_alt at hotmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap rolls
To: "General pattern discussion"
&lt;nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org&gt;
Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:03 PM






I just tried that. Something doesn't look
exactly right and the elevator is scraping the workbench now.  What am
I
doing wrong?

Ed

  ----- Original Message -----
  From:
  JShulman

  To: General pattern discussion

  Sent:
 Monday, September 22, 2008 11:30
  PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
  rolls


  swap rudder
  with elevator

  Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com


    -----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
    [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob
    Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:24 AM
To:
    General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap
    rolls



     I'm probably opening this up for lots of discussion, but what is
the
    correct technique for a snap?

     For an inside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before (same
direction)
    aileron and up elevator.
     For an outside snap, I apply rudder a fraction before opposite
aileron
    and down elevator.

    Problem is, I watch the big boys do snaps on my TOC videos and
    mine look so raggedy-ass.





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