[NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

Thu Mar 27 06:09:12 AKDT 2008

Turn it around the other way:
How about a new class for an autonomous competition?
Factor out the pilot and it becomes a builders contest....

John Ferrell    W8CCW

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke
http://DixieNC.US

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lance Van Nostrand 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

  At work we just bought some GPSs that have 100ms sample rates and 1m accuracy (I guess the military cloak is lifting??).  When will we have plotting and pattern recognition software that can plot your flight and give a non-biased score?
  --Lance

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jerry Stebbins 
    To: NSRCA Mailing List 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:05 AM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

    Also nothing has been said about ego's. There are always some pilots (all classes) that do not get the scores "they think they flew". Then they gripe about the "name" pilots getting a break and do not accept that they DID NOT fly as well as they thought! 
    Such is life--
    Those are the ones I would be a lot more concerned about!
    Jerry
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Matthew Frederick 
      To: NSRCA Mailing List 
      Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

      I know when I'm being petty I always try to be logical about it...
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lance Van Nostrand 
        To: NSRCA Mailing List 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:16 PM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

        Seems to me the more direct line threat would be the FAI guy that didn't make the finals and is asked to judge Masters on a pilot that was in his judging panel, or vice versa.  The case of a guy in the same class carrying sour grapes against a guy that flew in front of the same judges is simply absurd.  I won't argue that it doesn't exist, but if you are going to be petty, at least be logical about it :)
        --Lance

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: rcmaster199 at aol.com 
          To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
          Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:06 AM
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

          Hmmmm!! The guys who made the Final were not scored by their same-class peers!! So, if the guys who didn't make the Final were given the opportunity to judge the guys who did, then the potential for a few sour grapes could exist....I think that's what John seems to say.

          Considering the number of times we have cussed and discussed on this list the issue of grudges carrying over to the judging chairs, John has a point

          MattK

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Lance Van Nostrand <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
          To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
          Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 1:09 am
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats

I dont' understand where revenge scoring has a base.  The guys that made the   finals didn't give themselves the scores they got.  --Lance    ----- Original Message -----   From: "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net>  To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:59 PM  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats      > Some one always raises the question of whether or not enough healing has  > taken place for the recently defeated to be objective.  >  > I think it is asking too much of them to judge without a little time  > off..and if not, it should keep the finalis!
 t from worrying about a   > "revenge  > score".  >  > If we were all perfect I would agree, they are well qualified.  >  > John Ferrell    W8CCW  >  > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do  > nothing." -- Edmund Burke  > http://DixieNC.US  >  > ----- Original Message -----   > From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>  > To: "NSRCA" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:04 PM  > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats  >  >  >> Happy Easter  >>  >> Last night the great dinner discussion was why can't we use Semifinalists  >> as Finals judges during the Nats. I know this has come up  >> before, but not sure if it was ever discussed more, or what the outcome  >!
 ;> was. Why couldn't we use semifinalist pilots as judges? What  &g

t;> better pilots to know the F sequence than those that have to fly it?  >>  >> When you are all done with your Easter weekend, this should help bring in  >> the new week...lol.  >>  >> Regards,  >> Jason  >> www.jasonshulman.com  >> www.shulmanaviation.com  >> www.composite-arf.com  >> No virus found in this outgoing message.  >> Checked by AVG.  >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date:   >> 3/21/2008  >> 5:52 PM  >>  >>  >> _______________________________________________  >> NSRCA-discussion mailing list  >> NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  >> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion  >>  >  >  > _______________________________________________  > NSRCA-discussion mailing list  > NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion     _______________________________________________  NSRCA-discussion mailing list  NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org  http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion  
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