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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Turn it around the other way:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How about a new class for an autonomous
competition?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Factor out the pilot and it becomes a builders
contest....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"All that is necessary
for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@tx.rr.com href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance Van
Nostrand</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At work we just bought some GPSs that have 100ms
sample rates and 1m accuracy (I guess the military cloak is lifting??).
When will we have plotting and pattern recognition software that can plot your
flight and give a non-biased score?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also nothing has been said about ego's. There
are always some pilots (all classes) that do not get the scores "they think
they flew". Then they gripe about the "name" pilots getting a break and do
not accept that they DID NOT fly as well as they thought! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Such is life--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those are the ones I would be a lot more
concerned about!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mjfrederick@cox.net href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">Matthew
Frederick</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know when I'm being petty I always try to
be logical about it...</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patterndude@tx.rr.com href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance
Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seems to me the more direct line threat
would be the FAI guy that didn't make the finals and is asked to judge
Masters on a pilot that was in his judging panel, or vice versa.
The case of a guy in the same class carrying sour grapes against a guy
that flew in front of the same judges is simply absurd. I won't
argue that it doesn't exist, but if you are going to be petty, at least
be logical about it :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008
11:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FAI Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV>Hmmmm!! <SPAN contentEditable=false
style="DISPLAY: inline-block"></SPAN>The guys who made the Final were
not scored by their same-class peers!! So, if the guys who didn't make
the Final were given the opportunity to judge the guys who did, then
the potential for a few sour grapes could exist....I think that's what
John seems to say.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Considering the number of times we have cussed and discussed on
this list the issue of grudges carrying over to the judging chairs,
John has a point</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Lance Van Nostrand
<patterndude@tx.rr.com><BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008
1:09 am<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at
the Nats<BR><BR>
<DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_5d45ea89-8cc1-4763-b278-3aa15cf7118a
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>I dont' understand where revenge scoring has a base. The guys that made the finals didn't give themselves the scores they got. --Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ferrell" <<A href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats > Some one always raises the question of whether or not enough healing has > taken place for the recently defeated to be objective. > > I think it is asking too much of them to judge without a little time > off..and if not, it should keep the finalis!
t from worrying about a > "revenge > score". > > If we were all perfect I would agree, they are well qualified. > > John Ferrell W8CCW > > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." -- Edmund Burke > <A href="http://dixienc.us/" target=_blank>http://DixieNC.US</A> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JShulman" <<A href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A>> > To: "NSRCA" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:04 PM > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats > > >> Happy Easter >> >> Last night the great dinner discussion was why can't we use Semifinalists >> as Finals judges during the Nats. I know this has come up >> before, but not sure if it was ever discussed more, or what the outcome >!
;> was. Why couldn't we use semifinalist pilots as judges? What &g
t;> better pilots to know the F sequence than those that have to fly it? >> >> When you are all done with your Easter weekend, this should help bring in >> the new week...lol. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> <A href="http://www.jasonshulman.com/" target=_blank>www.jasonshulman.com</A> >> <A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/" target=_blank>www.shulmanaviation.com</A> >> <A href="http://www.composite-arf.com/" target=_blank>www.composite-arf.com</A> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date: >> 3/21/2008 >> 5:52 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NSRCA-discussion mailing list >> <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> >> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-d! iscussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NSRCA-discussion mailing list > <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> > <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> _______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> </TT></PRE></DIV>
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