[NSRCA-discussion] FW: Harvest - F-Round or not?

Jon Lowe jonlowe at aol.com
Tue Jun 17 05:39:25 AKDT 2008


I'm glad to hear you were having problems understanding them on Joe's cell phone.   They blamed my cell phone when I couldn't understand them either!


Jon Lowe


-----Original Message-----
From: JShulman <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 8:25 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Harvest - F-Round or not?



Even though Round 4 isn't posted and a 5th flight was only flown by one of them, I had talked with Joe and Ryan Sunday and I could barely make out what they were saying most of the time one the phone. Either the speaker phone was bad or they were laughing too much about all the fun they had. Should the 4th round have counted... probably so. Would it have made a difference in placing, not at all. Ryan would have had 3000 and AC 2893 or something around there. When I talked to Ryan he seemed more upset, yet still laughing about, his screwed up rev. 2 of 4pt loop (instead of the actual 4pt loop). But it's done, over and I'm sure that CD's will make the decision to fly 4-P and 2-F or whatever in the future at the beginning of contests. Since the Nats will be past us soon, we shouldn't have a need for "practice rounds" at contests anymore.

 

Now about those spins.......

 

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:13 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Harvest - F-Round or not?




I talked to Ryan quite a bit last night.  I’m pretty sure he felt it was a “real” round when he took off.  He flew a bad loop with 4-point and left the door open.  A/C zeroed some maneuvers, caught or not, and it was after he DNF’d the round and (allegedly) spoke to the score keeper to get it removed (or something), than it became “Bermuda’ed” and was ghosted from the results.  

 

Here it is in a nutshell – True, there were only two FAI pilots so you can say it only affected 2 people, but when you saddle up for a round of F09, or competition in any class, you better be prepared to take your medicine.  Would this result have been posted if A/C would have finished the round and beaten Ryan?

 

However mild this situation is perceived to be (only two people right?), one of the most experienced top-competitors in our district (2006 Masters Champion) walks away feeling cheated-out.  If we are to maintain healthy competition in all classes (including FAI) this type of stuff can’t happen again.  

 


Thanks,

Jim

 





From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest - F-Round or not?


 


We only flew 5 rounds and called it a contest on Saturday.  Wouldn't have changed the standings to do more (damm it!).  FAI pilots (all two of them) decided to make the F09  5th round practice only, as I understand it.



 



Jon Lowe



 



 


-----Original Message-----
From: JShulman <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest - F-Round or not?



hmmmmm... was that before or after the flights?...lol



 



Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Keith Hoard
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest - F-Round or not?

I think they did it "For Training Purposes Only". . . 


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Woodward, Jim (US SSA) <jim.woodward at baesystems.com> wrote:




Guys,



 



Was an F09 round flown in Harvest by both competitors?  I did not see it posted on the RCU pictures.  Was this round flown and not shown?  



 



Thanks,



Jim



 





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