I'm glad to hear you were having problems understanding them on Joe's cell phone. They blamed my cell phone when I couldn't understand them either!<br>
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<div><SPAN class=250401313-17062008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Even though Round 4 isn't posted and a 5th flight was only flown by one of them, I had talked with Joe and Ryan Sunday and I could barely make out what they were saying most of the time one the phone. Either the speaker phone was bad or they were laughing too much about all the fun they had. Should the 4th round have counted... probably so. Would it have made a difference in placing, not at all. Ryan would have had 3000 and AC 2893 or something around there. When I talked to Ryan he seemed more upset, yet still laughing about, his screwed up rev. 2 of 4pt loop (instead of the actual 4pt loop). But it's done, over and I'm sure that CD's will make the decision to fly 4-P and 2-F or whatever in the future at the beginning of contests. Since the Nats will be past us soon, we shouldn't have a need for "practice rounds" at contests anymore.</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN class=250401313-17062008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Now about those spins.......</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward, Jim (US SSA)<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:13 AM<br>
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<B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Harvest - F-Round or not?<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I talked to Ryan quite a bit last night. I’m pretty sure he felt it was a “real” round when he took off. He flew a bad loop with 4-point and left the door open. A/C zeroed some maneuvers, caught or not, and it was after he DNF’d the round and (allegedly) spoke to the score keeper to get it removed (or something), than it became “Bermuda’ed” and was ghosted from the results. </SPAN></FONT></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here it is in a nutshell – True, there were only two FAI pilots so you can say it only affected 2 people, but when you saddle up for a round of F09, or competition in any class, you better be prepared to take your medicine. Would this result have been posted if A/C would have finished the round and beaten Ryan?</SPAN></FONT></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However mild this situation is perceived to be (only two people right?), one of the most experienced top-competitors in our district (2006 Masters Champion) walks away feeling cheated-out. If we are to maintain healthy competition in all classes (including FAI) this type of stuff can’t happen again. </SPAN></FONT></div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM<br>
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Jason<br>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Woodward, Jim (US SSA) <<A href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com">jim.woodward@baesystems.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></div>
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