[NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI

Sun Jun 15 19:44:28 AKDT 2008

I agree with you 100%...just quoting the "written criteria"...and to also 
follow the same criteria, it can't deviate from it's flight path...show me 
how that can happen <VBG>

Dang...I thought I was the only one... LOL!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI

> I'd love to see any model plane (aerobatic, not over-weight warbirds) 
> actually pitch the nose up in flight (the amount "required"
> for a scored snap) and become stalled.
>
> Regards,
> Jason
> www.jasonshulman.com
> www.shulmanaviation.com
> www.composite-arf.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:08 PM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
> Dang Jason...
>
> You know I'm going to say the pitch is supposed to happen first, otherwise
> the wing won't be in a stalled position before the roll and yaw.LOL!!
>
> You're making me second guess myself :-) <BG>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
>> You passed and took away my desire to pitch the nose up and roll...lol.
>>
>> Can the pitch break happen simultaneously as the roll and yaw?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>> www.jasonshulman.com
>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>> www.composite-arf.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken 
>> Thompson
>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:47 PM
>> To: Ken Thompson; General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>
>>
>> How'd I do?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Thompson" <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>
>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>
>>
>>> That would be the first part...after that better be the tail forming a
>>> cone, or else...no it wouldn't be a snap;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ken,
>>>>
>>>> Would you say that if the plane breaks in pitch it is a snap?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>>> Thompson
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:36 PM
>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!!  I'll be waiting in the wings to read the comments :-)
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Must be even closer to the Nats... after this is Spins...lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we talking shoulder rolling or straight rolling?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>>>> Thompson
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:24 PM
>>>>> To: johnfuqua at embarqmail.com; General pattern discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How can it be a snap if no pitch or break is shown?
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes...I know this comment is setting up a serious discussion :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> For those FAI pilots at the Harvest contest this weekend who took the
>>>>>> position that the airplane need no longer show pitch or break to 
>>>>>> enter
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> snap I invite you to para 5B.7.5 of the FAI rule book.  Looks to me
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> only change is that a zero is no longer appropriate but a mandatory
>>>>>> downgrade of more than 5 points is.
>>>>>>
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