[NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI

[R. LIPRIE]

That is why you do it so quick.  So it can stall.  It will not be a snap 
unless its fast.

Matt
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Thompson" <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI


>I agree with you 100%...just quoting the "written criteria"...and to also 
>follow the same criteria, it can't deviate from it's flight path...show me 
>how that can happen <VBG>
>
> Dang...I thought I was the only one... LOL!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
>> I'd love to see any model plane (aerobatic, not over-weight warbirds) 
>> actually pitch the nose up in flight (the amount "required"
>> for a scored snap) and become stalled.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>> www.jasonshulman.com
>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>> www.composite-arf.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken 
>> Thompson
>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:08 PM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>
>>
>> Dang Jason...
>>
>> You know I'm going to say the pitch is supposed to happen first, 
>> otherwise
>> the wing won't be in a stalled position before the roll and yaw.LOL!!
>>
>> You're making me second guess myself :-) <BG>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>
>>
>>> You passed and took away my desire to pitch the nose up and roll...lol.
>>>
>>> Can the pitch break happen simultaneously as the roll and yaw?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken 
>>> Thompson
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:47 PM
>>> To: Ken Thompson; General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>
>>>
>>> How'd I do?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ken Thompson" <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>
>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>
>>>
>>>> That would be the first part...after that better be the tail forming a
>>>> cone, or else...no it wouldn't be a snap;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you say that if the plane breaks in pitch it is a snap?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>>>> Thompson
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:36 PM
>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!!!  I'll be waiting in the wings to read the comments :-)
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Must be even closer to the Nats... after this is Spins...lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we talking shoulder rolling or straight rolling?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>>>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>>>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>>>>> Thompson
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:24 PM
>>>>>> To: johnfuqua at embarqmail.com; General pattern discussion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can it be a snap if no pitch or break is shown?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes...I know this comment is setting up a serious discussion :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:18 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those FAI pilots at the Harvest contest this weekend who took 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> position that the airplane need no longer show pitch or break to 
>>>>>>> enter
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> snap I invite you to para 5B.7.5 of the FAI rule book.  Looks to me
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> only change is that a zero is no longer appropriate but a mandatory
>>>>>>> downgrade of more than 5 points is.
>>>>>>>
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