[NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI

[JShulman]

I'd love to see any model plane (aerobatic, not over-weight warbirds) actually pitch the nose up in flight (the amount "required"
for a scored snap) and become stalled.

Regards,
Jason
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-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:08 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI


Dang Jason...

You know I'm going to say the pitch is supposed to happen first, otherwise
the wing won't be in a stalled position before the roll and yaw.LOL!!

You're making me second guess myself :-) <BG>


----- Original Message -----
From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI


> You passed and took away my desire to pitch the nose up and roll...lol.
>
> Can the pitch break happen simultaneously as the roll and yaw?
>
> Regards,
> Jason
> www.jasonshulman.com
> www.shulmanaviation.com
> www.composite-arf.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:47 PM
> To: Ken Thompson; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
> How'd I do?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Thompson" <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
>> That would be the first part...after that better be the tail forming a
>> cone, or else...no it wouldn't be a snap;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>
>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Would you say that if the plane breaks in pitch it is a snap?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>> Thompson
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:36 PM
>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL!!!  I'll be waiting in the wings to read the comments :-)
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>
>>>
>>>> Must be even closer to the Nats... after this is Spins...lol.
>>>>
>>>> Are we talking shoulder rolling or straight rolling?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
>>>> Thompson
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:24 PM
>>>> To: johnfuqua at embarqmail.com; General pattern discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How can it be a snap if no pitch or break is shown?
>>>>
>>>> And yes...I know this comment is setting up a serious discussion :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:18 PM
>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For those FAI pilots at the Harvest contest this weekend who took the
>>>>> position that the airplane need no longer show pitch or break to enter
>>>>> the
>>>>> snap I invite you to para 5B.7.5 of the FAI rule book.  Looks to me
>>>>> like
>>>>> the
>>>>> only change is that a zero is no longer appropriate but a mandatory
>>>>> downgrade of more than 5 points is.
>>>>>
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